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KVRAF
8215 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:16 am

That's a pretty unfortunate placement of KvR poll with regards to Bitwig's banner :hihi: :dog:

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KVRAF
6889 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:41 am

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KVRAF
3508 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:43 am

If you answer the survey question the banner goes away.

KVRist
370 posts since 1 Jul, 2009

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:51 am

It's Friday! Where is Bitwig 4? :x

KVRAF
6889 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:19 am

I have given up looking/waiting/expecting - past performance is no indicator of future performance as they say!
Could be July!
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KVRAF
6889 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:19 am

I have given up looking/waiting/expecting - past performance is no indicator of future performance as they say! Could be July, so focusing on Bitwig 'as is' (and new other toys :oops: )
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KVRAF
1768 posts since 20 Oct, 2014

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:20 am

The bitwig subscription is better than shopping, you buy not only the product, but also one year(!!) of the lifetime of the developers.

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KVRAF

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8215 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:29 am

Hanz Meyzer wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:20 am
...you buy not only the product, but also one year(!!) of the lifetime of the developers.
So what you're saying is that I own slaves now? :o :D
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KVRAF
6889 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:31 am

Yeh, but they could just be sat around drinking beer for that 1 year ;-)
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KVRist
104 posts since 1 Nov, 2010

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:12 am

Isn't the license a subscription on updates though?
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KVRAF
3313 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:34 am

wavedigit wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:12 am
Isn't the license a subscription on updates though?
Probably it's better to see it as a "Renewal of Membership for free updates" :wink:
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KVRAF

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8215 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:00 am

liquidsound wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:34 am
wavedigit wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:12 am
Isn't the license a subscription on updates though?
Probably it's better to see it as a "Renewal of Membership for free updates" :wink:
Exactly. The idea is you upgrade when features as-is are worth it and get 1 year of updates "free". I actually wish they'd drop the version numbers and e.g. used date, like Linux or Windows do nowadays. That would help people liberate from that mindset of "versions" and would maybe also put some pressure on devs because it's easy to see when the last big update was :D
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KVRian
547 posts since 4 Feb, 2017

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:24 am

It is a subscription. However not one to use the program but to receive updates. Still a subscription though.

KVRian
547 posts since 4 Feb, 2017

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:27 am

In every Bitwig topic its about subscriptions and the update plan. It's really laughable.

KVRAF
3313 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:36 am

Rivanni wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:24 am
It is a subscription. However not one to use the program but to receive updates. Still a subscription though.
The problem is the way the term “subscription” works for different companies such as with Phaseplant where if you stop subscribing your plugins stop working while in Bitwig you can still use it to the end of time.
That’s why many inquirers are cautious with the model even though it’s explained in all kinds of ways but still, as usual, a negative thought can destroy 1000 positive thoughts.

So, probably “membership” or a “yearly/annual pass” it’s a better term.
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