MIDI import to phrases

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KVRian
623 posts since 8 Apr, 2014

Post Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:18 am

dmitriyK wrote:Oh, didnt understand that. That seems not possible in Reaper or Ableton :-)
We are talking in english. If I talk into spanish to you, probabily you don't understand me. Even worse if I keep silence. If two software didn't talk in the same language, that cannot be acomplished. But it's even worse if one of them do not "talk". That's I mean. In the same way the most common way to talk is english, the one in sotware is the "file" language. Example: FL Studio allows drags from its browser to another external third-party windows using this (File drag and drop), so I can play with that in Nora.
dmitriyK wrote:For me Nora is a live (aka realtime) composition tool, which is used to understand in real time how different sequences in various tonalities/scales sound with the existing material. So I need to import a sequence to Nora the best way possible (from rapidcomposer for example, this is why i'm asking for chords to keep), and then I'll press a 5note chord manually (or use one of the many "chorderizers") and listen. Press record if I like what I hear… I can even do keyboard splits to input 3-4note (scale-based) chords from the leftmost octave via chord generator, and input additional non-tonal notes from the remaining keys… Really chord sequences are kept in sequencer only for future reference, the real material is almost always rendered to actual note arpeggios and stuff, tweaked and edited afterwards with CC's or automation curves per clip or whatever.

I can use as many chord generators or as many keyboards I have, so input up to 10note chord is not a problem, and it's not tiresome at all. Everything I suggest — from proper midi import to phrases to one-click pattern creation from selected notes — is practice-based need.
Yes, I understand you. So the thing I was thought have no use here :lol: Anyway, I will continue with my plans to add better conversion of a MIDI file in a Phrase. I'll write my progress here as soon as I start with it

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KVRian
623 posts since 8 Apr, 2014

Re: MIDI import to phrases

Post Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:52 am

I started with a better midi phrase import. If you want to give me some feedback, now it's the moment! Post here a MIDI, I will transform it and I'll post the screenshot, then we can talk about how nice or wrong it is.

dmitriyK
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25 posts since 29 Feb, 2016

Re: MIDI import to phrases

Post Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:41 am

squaredheads wrote:I started with a better midi phrase import. If you want to give me some feedback, now it's the moment! Post here a MIDI, I will transform it and I'll post the screenshot, then we can talk about how nice or wrong it is.
Let's see:
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KVRian
623 posts since 8 Apr, 2014

Re: MIDI import to phrases

Post Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:01 pm

Just by dragging and drop on the phrase editor, this is how it looks:

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yellukhan
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1314 posts since 10 Mar, 2004

Re: MIDI import to phrases

Post Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:32 pm

Seems very promising! :tu:
here is 6 examples.
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KVRian
623 posts since 8 Apr, 2014

Re: MIDI import to phrases

Post Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:32 pm

They are pretty similar examples, so I only rendered 3 of them. Notice the rhythm is no problem for the new script, only the note pitches. In all of these examples, there are 3 octaves and up to 3 notes per octave:

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I'm thinking that if create a popup window where the user selects the MIDI scale, I could create more accurate (in the pitch axis, the time axis is perfect) results - however this mean that you would need to do an extra click (to close the window) when you are simply browsing MIDI files. I listen your ideas, what I want to know is if it's enough for a midi import :wink: .

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yellukhan
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1314 posts since 10 Mar, 2004

Re: MIDI import to phrases

Post Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:11 pm

importing the chord based materials, (in my examples C maj. triads) seems works perfectly
if also works for the 4 note chords like this (without knowing the scale)
that's already enough to me.
importing scale based phrases need more opinions from community IMHO.

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KVRian
623 posts since 8 Apr, 2014

Re: MIDI import to phrases

Post Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:35 pm

Yes, it imports up to 8 note chords (logically ;)) without knowing the scale.

nexussynth
KVRian
529 posts since 1 Jan, 2004

Re: MIDI import to phrases

Post Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:47 pm

that is works for me too. don't need the scale. :)
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KVRAF
4740 posts since 24 May, 2004 from square1

Re: MIDI import to phrases

Post Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:07 pm

I am late to the party. Can someone point me to video that shows current method for midi import into Nora?

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yellukhan
KVRian
1314 posts since 10 Mar, 2004

Re: MIDI import to phrases

Post Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:38 pm

you got my promise ... when we get the new version instantly :D

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KVRAF
4740 posts since 24 May, 2004 from square1

Re: MIDI import to phrases

Post Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:47 pm

I thought we could do it now. I will research.

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KVRian
623 posts since 8 Apr, 2014

Re: MIDI import to phrases

Post Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:37 am

At its current version (2.56), Nora imports only the rhythm of the MIDI file. You can drop a MIDI File on the phrase editor to do it. Or in the quantizer configuration to generate a new quantizer pattern.

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KVRAF
4740 posts since 24 May, 2004 from square1

Re: MIDI import to phrases

Post Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:54 pm

Thanks Juan, I appreciate it.

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KVRAF
4740 posts since 24 May, 2004 from square1

Re: MIDI import to phrases

Post Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:34 pm

Drag and drop doesn't work here, but it works when I use the menu.

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