yellowmix wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:46 am
WasteLand wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:33 am
MPE is still a niche? but there are quite a lot of synths capable of MPE nowadays, enough for years...
not every synth needs MPE, although you can turn every synth into MPE (i only tested, in.. voltage modular, 4 instances of Mini V3...). it is still a nice. but many synths i have can do MPE. or many, enough.
yes not quite known that voltage modular can do MPE, and do it great (the module you must buy...).
or biotek 2....
Before I got my Morph I wet my feet with Strobe 2. I love the original Synth Squad and had to get the updated version. It accepted the relevant CCs without an MPE controller, all I had to do was put colliding notes and CCs on different MIDI channels. So while there is no joy of playing polyphonically and more tedium of sequencing it manually, one can still take advantage of it.
Highly encourage anyone with an MPE synth but no controller to try it out. I found it very rewarding. And made my buy a controller.
And yes, it's great to see many existing synths implement it. Biotek 2 was a real surprise (though it was begging for it given the amount of modulation) and I've been retrofitting my existing presets to take advantage of it.
One thing I'd like to see are MPE FX. Not all FX are good candidates for this but imagine a multivoice pitch shifter where you could play each voice, a vocoder/spectral FX where you could play each band, a delay where you could play each delay line, and so on.
o with Morph, you mean sensel morph.
still have strangely my eye on it, but i think i only buy a second hand lightpad M, then i have two lightpads. they are great, and seaboard block, i can play it quite good, i think..
but the sensel morph, still attractive...
don't have strobe 2, i picked cypher 2.. (and equator, i bit strange for someone, who does sounddesign, and makes tracks out of these sounds. but equator is strangely quite good.. not a LION or a cypher 2, and it makes the learning curve (play style and making patches at the same time) easier.)
there are MPE FX, unfiltered audio, they connect only with the lightpad M.... (but it isn't recorded with automation... the modulators, are strictly modulators in the domain of unfiltered audio plugins. i think know, but the macro's, they can be automated. o well.. you must record the output.. audio..), but not the way i mean. they can be controlled by MPE, but single channel. so i must take my words back.
in a way MSoundFactory can be used as an MPE FX.. or the MXXX(Core)? no that last one not.
didn't do a lot with MPE yet with MSoundFactory. and no the FX aren't multi-voice either, an effect with MPE:
i think the problem with MPE FX will be: collision, or you can record after the fact (the synth or soft synth is fact here).
and: multi-voice effects. i am testing two things now, while i am writing this, sorry if i am incoherent. multi-voice effects, do they exist? a have a collection of the more "stranger" FX, but simply don't know if one of them is capable of doing it.
in voltage modular you can chose 2 devices or more, aha! there we are an MPE FX, and i experimenting with MPE mainly in LION, equator and voltage modular, right now. and pigments 2..
and ... ow... that i gonna tell later... o yes, already worked with MPE and biotek2, yes biotek2 is made for MPE, like LION. it takes biotek2 to the next level, it had it already in it, now you can pull it out, with easy strokes......
but yes, the question was also in my head MPE FX. why no MPE FX.
you only have 16 midi channel, but that is per "device", so you can have multiple "16 channels", in cubase you can route one device to an FX, of course i think also in bitwig.
the bomb would be more MPE devices together... it can be done.
not all in voltage modular is polyphonic, and when VCV rack comes as a plugin (if it comes, it will come, but it will take time), polyphony is easier to implement, in VCV rack.
but with monophonic modules you can already built, a 4 "voice" effect, for instance.
must experiment with it, how it works. the MPE domain is a new territory, and time i hadn't much lately. shall try to make a MPE FX, in voltage modular. will take some time, to make good ones.
in LION the FX, and all (?) MPE synths, they aren't multi-voice (that would render incapable of handling a patch i think).
there is soft synth, that is already there, that gets MPE, i am working with it now. testing it.
and biotek 2, yes, i got an e-mail from the developer, also about a bug, that has been fixed (crashing cubase). will come, when it comes.. in the release notes of the installer, there is a little bit more info about MPE, that i added to my insignificant thread about "biotek2 is a MPE synth!".
EDIT: like your way of thinking, and your enthusiasm!
EDIT 2: i always write i instead of a, many times. why? "i bit strange for someone", is in way true, beta testing a (...). i bit strange. yes that is also true, but it must be "a bit strange for someone"