2SYNts- regular guitar to poly MIDI and synth
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5140 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
I have updated again!
It now works better than all the audio demos.
I used a peaking biquad eq type filter to certainly play the highest fret.
All the strings now have the same response time- 56 ms for locked trig,
and 20ms for retrigging, both in MIDI.
I will carefully remake all the audio demos.
The hung note in bend mode seems to be fixed.
I have an idea of what I want to do with the logo.
I'm quite sure that it is working better than ever.
Enjoy 8D
It now works better than all the audio demos.
I used a peaking biquad eq type filter to certainly play the highest fret.
All the strings now have the same response time- 56 ms for locked trig,
and 20ms for retrigging, both in MIDI.
I will carefully remake all the audio demos.
The hung note in bend mode seems to be fixed.
I have an idea of what I want to do with the logo.
I'm quite sure that it is working better than ever.
Enjoy 8D
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5140 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
The top half of the fretboard is screwy, sorry.
I like this filter formation though-
u can push it around in many ways.
The gain and q on the eq is hard to figure out what the correct figure should be.
So- another update soon.
Cheers
I like this filter formation though-
u can push it around in many ways.
The gain and q on the eq is hard to figure out what the correct figure should be.
So- another update soon.
Cheers
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5140 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
I fixed ver1_8 pretty much I think.
Updated again in the first post.
Updated again in the first post.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5140 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
Hey,
New version up(see first post)!
I used basically the filter architecture I developed in the last build,
but tweaked it. I found out that it worked better using the peaking biquad eq with cut low,
more than boosting the high harmonics.
The active Cheby has no q, allowing no half-band distorsion.
This has helped.
It very occasionally sorta lips out and follows a harmonic, but it's so rare.
The MIDI conversion is now a lot more solid. I did as much as I could in Ruby code-
so there are no more note hangs I'm pretty sure after 2 or so hours playing.
Basically it's much better, like I say, the odd stray harmonic seems to be the only problem,
but that's like a tiny thing every 10 minutes.
I'll redo the demos, make videos and the logo and show pictures of my newish hex tele.
I hope you enjoy it as much as me!
New version up(see first post)!
I used basically the filter architecture I developed in the last build,
but tweaked it. I found out that it worked better using the peaking biquad eq with cut low,
more than boosting the high harmonics.
The active Cheby has no q, allowing no half-band distorsion.
This has helped.
It very occasionally sorta lips out and follows a harmonic, but it's so rare.
The MIDI conversion is now a lot more solid. I did as much as I could in Ruby code-
so there are no more note hangs I'm pretty sure after 2 or so hours playing.
Basically it's much better, like I say, the odd stray harmonic seems to be the only problem,
but that's like a tiny thing every 10 minutes.
I'll redo the demos, make videos and the logo and show pictures of my newish hex tele.
I hope you enjoy it as much as me!
- KVRist
- 149 posts since 28 Sep, 2006
You deserve a medal for just trying to do something that complicated By the way Jam origin isn't that bad at all.. Sure you can't get out on the stage with it-it would be ridicilous...But it does great job of entering midi by playing guitar. Than of course you have to edit the hell out of recording but it is definitely usable and fun.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5140 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
Oh thanks!
I have JO, gotta give it more of a go. It seemed pretty good last time I tried it.
About a mono to poly conversion- it sorta seems to make things difficult.
If JO had made a hex guitar one they would have smashed it.
With guitar we don't need to pitch detect a poly signal.
My pickups cost $150 each.
-- I made a mistake when I modded the 2SYNth with the new crossing counter.
I forgot to add the delayed trigger to the held off pitch figure.
It's fixed and I'll alter the downloads soon.
It works better than the ver currently up.
This bit pauses the filter tracking when it's disengaged with last note trigged
I have JO, gotta give it more of a go. It seemed pretty good last time I tried it.
About a mono to poly conversion- it sorta seems to make things difficult.
If JO had made a hex guitar one they would have smashed it.
With guitar we don't need to pitch detect a poly signal.
My pickups cost $150 each.
-- I made a mistake when I modded the 2SYNth with the new crossing counter.
I forgot to add the delayed trigger to the held off pitch figure.
It's fixed and I'll alter the downloads soon.
It works better than the ver currently up.
This bit pauses the filter tracking when it's disengaged with last note trigged
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5140 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
New update.
I have tinkered with this for 10s of hours since last update.
I have ditched the note hold mentioned in the last post.
I also hopped the now most active low pass' cutoff.
This works better, but I'll try further with the switching mode(not bend/slide).
These are not samplerate independent because I have not decimated yet where the hop is.
These need to be run at 44.1k
It occurs to me that I cannot really deliver this product without including at least the EQ in the UI. If you want to tailor it to your hex pickup in ur guitar, you will need to alter the EQ. The peak hits the uppermost note(it's set for 21 frets), and the cut allows the top half of the fretboard to register.
edit-the last paragraph no longer applies, and I am now Roland GK3 specific. It works as well as I have made out of the box for GK3.
Cheers- I'll work on demos- maybe a vid or 2 8D
I have tinkered with this for 10s of hours since last update.
I have ditched the note hold mentioned in the last post.
I also hopped the now most active low pass' cutoff.
This works better, but I'll try further with the switching mode(not bend/slide).
These are not samplerate independent because I have not decimated yet where the hop is.
These need to be run at 44.1k
It occurs to me that I cannot really deliver this product without including at least the EQ in the UI. If you want to tailor it to your hex pickup in ur guitar, you will need to alter the EQ. The peak hits the uppermost note(it's set for 21 frets), and the cut allows the top half of the fretboard to register.
edit-the last paragraph no longer applies, and I am now Roland GK3 specific. It works as well as I have made out of the box for GK3.
Cheers- I'll work on demos- maybe a vid or 2 8D
Last edited by nix808 on Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:50 am, edited 2 times in total.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5140 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
<edit-reddener- post edited, I can't seem to get it perfect>
I believe in this method,
turning the hexaphonic signal into a sine with filters,
but I will prolly be working on it all my life to get it to be optimally fine.
Rock on!- n
I believe in this method,
turning the hexaphonic signal into a sine with filters,
but I will prolly be working on it all my life to get it to be optimally fine.
Rock on!- n
Last edited by nix808 on Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:53 am, edited 1 time in total.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5140 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
So- I'm sorry, it seems I am wrong again, and I haven't nailed it in the latest release.
I am going in a better direction though for sure.
I am enjoying the unit now,
but it only is seemingly error free when flatpicking.
I need to lower the res on the notch so far, that it quashes a lot of the hf content.
With fingers, the tone will not track up-
but it is real nice with a .6 or .73 pick on the slide mode.
It is pretty right too on trigger mode with the pick.
I have discovered just in the last few days that the hp res is crucial.
The device requires pretty keen settings to get the balance right between harmonic flaws,
and the ability to reach up the fretboard. The hp res also dramatically affects this( along with lp,eq and notch).
I am not impressed with this fineness of setting- by rights I will have to set it only approximately I hope.
I'll post up the picking friendly version very soon, after thoroughly attempting to use GK3-
I have my ace Tele up atm with a Rubenstein PU.
So bear with me- to tell the truth I am loving this flatpicking version with the soft synths I write.
The flaws annoy me just as much as you- but this one doesn't cause me a headache and frustration.
I am going in a better direction though for sure.
I am enjoying the unit now,
but it only is seemingly error free when flatpicking.
I need to lower the res on the notch so far, that it quashes a lot of the hf content.
With fingers, the tone will not track up-
but it is real nice with a .6 or .73 pick on the slide mode.
It is pretty right too on trigger mode with the pick.
I have discovered just in the last few days that the hp res is crucial.
The device requires pretty keen settings to get the balance right between harmonic flaws,
and the ability to reach up the fretboard. The hp res also dramatically affects this( along with lp,eq and notch).
I am not impressed with this fineness of setting- by rights I will have to set it only approximately I hope.
I'll post up the picking friendly version very soon, after thoroughly attempting to use GK3-
I have my ace Tele up atm with a Rubenstein PU.
So bear with me- to tell the truth I am loving this flatpicking version with the soft synths I write.
The flaws annoy me just as much as you- but this one doesn't cause me a headache and frustration.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5140 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
I have now written this for Roland GK3.
New version in first post.
I found that the Roland's separation allowed the high notes to come through more clearly.
If someone with a Win computer and a GP-10 wanted to tell me how it goes,
I would really appreciate it.
This version should work for pick or fingers.
Cheers- njoy
edit- this is for 44.1k samplerate only, and the eq is set for 24 frets
edit2- The bend mode works sweet now, but trigging it with the switch is shady.
I had to get this ver up for sure, the last one was broke.
Anyway, play some synths with no release in 'Bend' mode to wail.
I'll work on the trig mode in the next few days.
New version in first post.
I found that the Roland's separation allowed the high notes to come through more clearly.
If someone with a Win computer and a GP-10 wanted to tell me how it goes,
I would really appreciate it.
This version should work for pick or fingers.
Cheers- njoy
edit- this is for 44.1k samplerate only, and the eq is set for 24 frets
edit2- The bend mode works sweet now, but trigging it with the switch is shady.
I had to get this ver up for sure, the last one was broke.
Anyway, play some synths with no release in 'Bend' mode to wail.
I'll work on the trig mode in the next few days.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5140 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
Trig mode fixed,
the VSTfx is in the first post
the VSTfx is in the first post
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- KVRAF
- 5691 posts since 24 May, 2004 from []1
For some reason I'm not getting it to show up in Studio One 3 Pro. Will keep trying.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5140 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
Are you using 32-bit?
I have to build it in Flowstone- so 32-bit only.
I hear j-Bridge works good to bridge.
The trigger is a little fast, so I'll ease it back in latency some.
edit- so hit the bend switch, to track true all the time.
This switch turns the note on and off until it settles.
So if you slide the note it will re-trig.
edit2-
I'll get 3 pro if you want this up. I just have to upgrade from Artist
The GK 3 is the pickup to use, what pu have you?
I have to build it in Flowstone- so 32-bit only.
I hear j-Bridge works good to bridge.
The trigger is a little fast, so I'll ease it back in latency some.
edit- so hit the bend switch, to track true all the time.
This switch turns the note on and off until it settles.
So if you slide the note it will re-trig.
edit2-
I'll get 3 pro if you want this up. I just have to upgrade from Artist
The GK 3 is the pickup to use, what pu have you?
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- KVRAF
- 5691 posts since 24 May, 2004 from []1
I see: 32 bit; will use jBridge; I have GK 2A and/or 3 I think.
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- KVRAF
- 2751 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Central NY
If I'm understanding the posts I've read so far.....2SYN will work with a GK3 BUT you also need a GP10? Doesn't the GP10 already transmit MIDI over USB?
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