Bazille 2

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KVRian
638 posts since 8 Mar, 2008 from Crestview, Florida

Post Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:11 pm

Thanks mevla and Cepheus! I really had a lot of fun tinkering with Bazille and plan on making more lovely sounds with it. Yes, it's not just for electronic farts. Some nice sounds are possible.

Cepheus
KVRer
13 posts since 4 Jan, 2007

Re: Bazille 2

Post Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:38 pm

@Sound Author, in the walkthrough movie you mention that you don't always want the spring reverb. I agree with that. Some sounds become too coloured with that reverb. A module with the HIve/ recent Zebra reverb would a welcome alternative. How about convolution as module say: https://reverb.com/item/3257791-mungo-e ... rorack-new ?

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KVRian
638 posts since 8 Mar, 2008 from Crestview, Florida

Re: Bazille 2

Post Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:27 am

Eer, Bazille is already somewhat CPU intensive. I think convolution would push it right over the edge. A simple lush reverb would do fine. "NuVerb" as it's called in Zebra...which I believe is inherited from Hive.

mevla
KVRAF
2324 posts since 3 Nov, 2015

Re: Bazille 2

Post Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:11 pm

In some cases sound designers are adding reverb like MSG on food. It'll sound good. Sometimes it's also for good intent, as an integrated creative part of the sound. The latter is what I found with "Equinox". Otherwise, simply let the user add reverb by other means.

I found that when the included reverb has to be toned down in a patch, it's basically because it does not feel as part of the sound and as such has to be pulled back so that the more essential parts will merge with the musical piece. On the other hand when it's a creative part of the sound then right from the start the patch feels wholesome.

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Yorrrrrr
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801 posts since 25 Sep, 2011 from Cartagena - Colombia

Re: Bazille 2

Post Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:00 am

Urs wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:11 pm
Yorrrrrr wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:41 am
Bazille has been a little neglected.
You're right. That is only because Hive was neglected for a while longer, it somehow was left dangling in the void. So now Hive gets some TLC, and maybe next year (post Z3), we'll give Bazille a bit more than just the new browser and the cookbook. Browser and cookbook are realistic goals for later this year though.
I hope this remains true. This and Zebra 3 are all I'm waiting right now.
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ghettosynth
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11657 posts since 13 Oct, 2009

Re: Bazille 2

Post Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:10 am

Cepheus wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:38 pm
@Sound Author, in the walkthrough movie you mention that you don't always want the spring reverb. I agree with that. Some sounds become too coloured with that reverb. A module with the HIve/ recent Zebra reverb would a welcome alternative. How about convolution as module say: https://reverb.com/item/3257791-mungo-e ... rorack-new ?
Yes, I hate the spring reverb. Convolution doesn't lend itself to real time parameter modulation. Bazille needs something like the guts of Blackhole or Spacemaster with careful attention paid to being able to modulate the parameters smoothly and then, of course, CV control of those parameters.

I'll say it again, Bazille needs proper multi-stage envelopes. I know some people disagree, I disagree with them. I have other requests, but I want this one to stand out.

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KVRian
638 posts since 8 Mar, 2008 from Crestview, Florida

Re: Bazille 2

Post Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:36 am

I don't think Bazille needs MSEGs. That's more of a Zebra thing. The Ramp generators will surprise you if you use them creatively within the Multiplexer. If there's anything Bazille needs, it's more Multiplex inputs/outputs so wee can crank up the nerdiness!

:harp:

ghettosynth
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11657 posts since 13 Oct, 2009

Re: Bazille 2

Post Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:58 am

Sound Author wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:36 am
I don't think Bazille needs MSEGs. That's more of a Zebra thing. The Ramp generators will surprise you if you use them creatively within the Multiplexer. If there's anything Bazille needs, it's more Multiplex inputs/outputs so wee can crank up the nerdiness!

:harp:

I don't need other people to tell me how surprising the ramps are, as I said:

I know some people disagree, I disagree with them.

Funkybot's Evil Twin
KVRAF
6420 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Re: Bazille 2

Post Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:08 pm

I kind of want the new Hive Shape Sequencer and FG's in everything now (Zebra, ACE, Bazile, Diva, Repro). Not to mention the Scope. All things in due time I suppose.

elnn
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299 posts since 4 Nov, 2011 from Tleat

Re: Bazille 2

Post Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:10 pm

Yea, beforehand I'd still like an envelope that would be triggered by LFO as it is told and not by gate + LFO.
Brzzzzzzt.

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nilhartman
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478 posts since 15 Feb, 2012 from France

Re: Bazille 2

Post Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:06 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:08 pm
I kind of want the new Hive Shape Sequencer and FG's in everything now (Zebra, ACE, Bazile, Diva, Repro). Not to mention the Scope.
hah, me too ! I can’t even imagine how banana it’d be in Bazille.

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KVRian
638 posts since 8 Mar, 2008 from Crestview, Florida

Re: Bazille 2

Post Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:39 pm

ghettosynth wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:58 am
Sound Author wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:36 am
I don't think Bazille needs MSEGs. That's more of a Zebra thing. The Ramp generators will surprise you if you use them creatively within the Multiplexer. If there's anything Bazille needs, it's more Multiplex inputs/outputs so wee can crank up the nerdiness!

:harp:

I don't need other people to tell me how surprising the ramps are, as I said:

I know some people disagree, I disagree with them.
And I disagree with you disagreeing with my disagreement with you.

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dangayle
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856 posts since 30 Mar, 2014

Re: Bazille 2

Post Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:20 pm

Ploki wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:16 pm
that said, i want that tube saturation plugin from bazille as a u-he standalone :o
I want the filters!

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EvilDragon
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18178 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Re: Bazille 2

Post Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:32 am

Would be kinda cool to have ALL the u-he filters from all their instruments in Runciter...

medienhexer
KVRian
798 posts since 16 May, 2007 from At home. Good bye city ways!

Re: Bazille 2

Post Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:48 am

EvilDragon wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:32 am
Would be kinda cool to have ALL the u-he filters from all their instruments in Runciter...
NOW we're talking!

And please allow us to use either the signal or an external sidechain signal for the envelope follower. Or give us an EQ to restrict the signal feeding the envelope follower.

If then the update provides an LFO/MSEG, too, that would immediately kill any temptation to add more filters for me.
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