thejonsolo wrote:Urs wrote:thejonsolo wrote:I think Cubase requires it setup in VST3. The sidechain link does not appear at the top of the VST2 of Presswerk. It can be done is some lengthy convoluted manner using Group tracks, I suppose.
There's something about a quadro mixer… so I've heard. It's toughy, but a recipe for this would be most welcomed...
Ok working on it now.
The old trick in Cubase is as following:
- Create a QUAD group
- then open the "VST Connections", select the "Group Tap", browse to the QUAD group you just created
- add "stereo subgroups"
- close the window, load an instance of your sidechain compressor into the QUAD group
- send the "sidechain signal" from the channel of your choice to the QUAD group's Input 3+4.
- forward the signal to be processed (compressed) to the QUAD group's input 1+2
- now, the Plugin loaded in the QUAD Group should now recognize the first two inputs as "signal to be processes", while the second two channels is the "control signal" (the send signal).
While this is a hasle to set up, this is currently the only solution to create a VST2 sidechain setup. The plugin needs to support that however.
So... if there would be a non VST3 sidechain mode, I'd propose the following:
A button set on the GUI's (normal and classic ones), where you can set which channel(s) are the "listen (sidechain)" bus, and which the "signal" bus. Or else, a small routing matrix on the GUI, so that people know where to route what.
For simplicity however, if you want to use PRESSWERK as "mono Sidechain Compressor", then the signal to be processed shall be on L, while the sidechain signal shall be on R. No quad channel. The PRESSWERK GUI then only needs a mode button that says "sidechain mode" that then picks up from R, or from channel 3+4 (if used as stereo compressor and on a QUAD group).
Sadly, Steinberg goes the most inflexible BS route on this and insists on VST3, while all other host developes can easily(!) pull off sidechain compression with VST2. The SDK allows it, only CubEndo doesn't interpret it. And let's not(!) talk about Wavelab.
Another possible solution to create "sidechaining" might be creating a "send module" (separate VST plugin), that connects to PRESSWERK's Sidechain Input. Granted, you will loose out a VST plugin slot for this, but it worked for another sidechain compressor from like 5-10 years ago. And if U-HE refuses to go VST3 (due to reasons), and the QUAD Group route is inflexible - this is the only idiot-proof solution IMO.