How About Some Less Expensive Synths?
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- u-he
- 28063 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
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- KVRAF
- 5716 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
How about letting devs do what they do and people seeing if they like it rather than ape everyone else's design? There's plenty of space for creativity. There's no need to turn this area into a monoculture.tony10000 wrote:How about one that is less than $100 and has a streamlined UI like Serum?
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- u-he
- 28063 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
As I said... we have probably played out all possible scenarios. Half-a-Hive, Twice-a-Zebralette, Un-Modularized-Bazille, Quadruple Cheese, Tyrell Pro. Sure, any of those would make us money. But none of them would make us as much money as Repro, while each of them would delay Zebra3, Hive redesign & NKS, Diva update, MFM2 new UI + granular feedback, Filterscape make over, Uhbik make over and whatever the future holds for ACE and Bazille.
I can assure you that if we did a survey and asked our existing customers which they prefer, they'd prefer the updates over some inexpensive synth whose grounds have already been covered by the products they have.
I can assure you that if we did a survey and asked our existing customers which they prefer, they'd prefer the updates over some inexpensive synth whose grounds have already been covered by the products they have.
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- KVRAF
- 3644 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
Anything in the drum/percussion modeling dept. ?Urs wrote:As I said... we have probably played out all possible scenarios. Half-a-Hive, Twice-a-Zebralette, Un-Modularized-Bazille, Quadruple Cheese, Tyrell Pro. Sure, any of those would make us money. But none of them would make us as much money as Repro, while each of them would delay Zebra3, Hive redesign & NKS, Diva update, MFM2 new UI + granular feedback, Filterscape make over, Uhbik make over and whatever the future holds for ACE and Bazille.
Genau. Althouh this would perhaps be about reaching out to new customers.Urs wrote:I can assure you that if we did a survey and asked our existing customers which they prefer, they'd prefer the updates over some inexpensive synth whose grounds have already been covered by the products they have.
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- 1646 posts since 4 Aug, 2017
"... this would perhaps be about reaching out to new customers."
Agree...more customers is good, no?
Agree...more customers is good, no?
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- Banned
- 3889 posts since 3 Feb, 2010
What is to you ?tony10000 wrote:"... this would perhaps be about reaching out to new customers."
Agree...more customers is good, no?
even from buisiness standpoint in VST instrument market its not a bright idea for U-He brand (wich is already established and has a name wich associates with QUALITY, LUXURY). Its not like everyone is creating music or producing something. Sure you can offer new yoghurt with zero sugar to reach new customers in food market -
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"As I said... we have probably played out all possible scenarios. Half-a-Hive, Twice-a-Zebralette, Un-Modularized-Bazille, Quadruple Cheese, Tyrell Pro. Sure, any of those would make us money. But none of them would make us as much money as Repro, while each of them would delay Zebra3, Hive redesign & NKS, Diva update, MFM2 new UI + granular feedback, Filterscape make over, Uhbik make over and whatever the future holds for ACE and Bazille."
I get that...I just think there is room for a break out synth under $100 with the u-he touch.
I get that...I just think there is room for a break out synth under $100 with the u-he touch.
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- 3889 posts since 3 Feb, 2010
Thats the thing YOU THINK. And that id a gambling because you dont have a proper market analysis/study. Dont you think?tony10000 wrote:"As I said... we have probably played out all possible scenarios. Half-a-Hive, Twice-a-Zebralette, Un-Modularized-Bazille, Quadruple Cheese, Tyrell Pro. Sure, any of those would make us money. But none of them would make us as much money as Repro, while each of them would delay Zebra3, Hive redesign & NKS, Diva update, MFM2 new UI + granular feedback, Filterscape make over, Uhbik make over and whatever the future holds for ACE and Bazille."
I get that...I just think there is room for a break out synth under $100 with the u-he touch.
Market is saturated with high quality sub 100synths. Synthmaster 1/2, Ana 2, some other synth by Dimitry Sches (i dont remember the name). They all do similat thing and i bet there are even more synths that i havent heard
And during sales you can take even most of expensive synths under 100 eu.
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dlarseninclusive dlarseninclusive https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=408358 - KVRist
- 285 posts since 19 Nov, 2017 from Los Angeles
Have a look at this section of a great interview with Urs. Followed by Freeware a minute or so later.
https://youtu.be/5_iksWWAFSU?t=212
https://youtu.be/5_iksWWAFSU?t=212
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- KVRian
- 969 posts since 5 Sep, 2014 from Heaven
I want Zebra3 in 2018 and will tie down and gag anyone who tries to get in its way. tony10000 where do you live? 
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Ana2 is $133 US on sale (normally $190). Thorn is $119 US. Synthmaster is the only one consistently under $100.
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I want Zebra3 in 2018 and will tie down and gag anyone who tries to get in its way. tony10000 where do you live?
I'm not tellin'. Anyway, carry on Urs...I want Zebra 3 as well!
I'm not tellin'. Anyway, carry on Urs...I want Zebra 3 as well!
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- KVRAF
- 25417 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
No thanks... I want more expensive synthstony10000 wrote:OK, then...if nobody wants less less expensive synths (so u-he can conceivably make some more bucks), then how about some more free synths like ZebraCM, BazilleCM and Zebralette?
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- KVRAF
- 25417 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Please no... Give us a 'break out synth' (whatever that is) for $180tony10000 wrote:
I get that...I just think there is room for a break out synth under $100 with the u-he touch.
I want new synths that have the u-he dedication to detail, character and quality I expect. I want to pay more for it so that they stay happy to keep making cool stuff for us
EDIT: and I don't want anything else before Zebra 3
Also, I would love an update to Bazille (before anything else new) that focused on workflow... with functionality like copy/paste between Osc's and linking of modules plus a few new tricks and improvements. Be happy to pay for it.
