The magic of Uhbik

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krans
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24 posts since 10 Aug, 2017

Post Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:28 am

Whenever I start using a new U-he plugin, they tend to replace what I've been using before:
I only rarely use other compressors than Presswerk anymore, the synths I used all the time are now mostly compliments to U-he synths and so on. The greatness of U-he stuff is most often quite obvious.

So I'm a bit surprised that after having Uhbik for several months already, I still don't quite get it.
Yes, I use Uhbik-A quite a bit, but other reverbs (like IR and actually Protoverb) often give me more of what I'm looking for. And Uhbik-D is present in a lot of my projects, but I enjoy the delay part of Satin more, or even Colour Copy which I've only tried for some hours. Uhbik-G is cool and fun, but I feel like I'm getting a lot of the same result, the same feeling no matter how I treat it.

And this is not stuff I write to complain. Rather the opposite - I want to learn!
Could those of you who love Uhbik and understand more than me please write where Uhbik shines for you?

Of course there's surround, I see that, but so far in my audio life I never really needed surround.

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dlarseninclusive
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244 posts since 19 Nov, 2017 from Los Angeles

Re: The magic of Uhbik

Post Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:32 am

I mix and match all of the U-he effects quite a bit. With Uhbik I think of it as an effects processor "Lego" set. I'll use it to build out modular effects chains. Weather or not I use it in place of other effects almost depends on Mood. The more you put into it, the more you get out for sure though.

Uhbik-A, Uhbik-D, Uhbik-Q, Uhbik-S and Runciter (Order of chain will vary) can provide a similar result to MFM, FIlterscape and Zebrify. In some cases it takes less time to patch. Sometimes I want to go down a sound design rabbit hole, and others I just want to apply effects and keep working. I do create a lot of presets, and have goto's for most of them.

The Zebrify Comb filter is extraordinary and one of the few things I can't do as well in Uhbik. However Uhbik-F goes pretty deep and that is probably a matter of spending time with it. It will do a comb filter.

Presswerk and Satin are a given on most projects.

Runciter is worth it on its own it has a stomp box feel and sound to it, I find Uhbik-Q precise and easier to work with than other filters for simpler parametric tasks. Uhbik-F, and P are also simpler to configure than MFM or Zebrify for a number of tasks. Not so much for the likes of Repro, but Tyrell-N6 for sure, and Tripple Cheese as well as vocal processing.

The biggest trade off I can think of, is modulating via your host application, and not natively in the plugin.

ColourCopy for me still stands alone, it acts like having two independent tape delays and the graphics make that easy to control... You use delay and reverb to provide space, distance and proximity to build out whatever "Ambiance" you are looking for. Uhbik-A is very classical in that sense, and good for 'open' space, and precise space large or small. MFM is good for that too, and it also combines with the 4 delay units to provide unnatural stereo effects (MFM is also basically a Synth disguised as an effect). ColourCopy is more dense and saturated with lower frequencies. It has more water and earth character to it. (I know I am blurring Delay and Reverb here) The Satin delay mode is different altogether. (Made a pretty spot on Alan Parson's Sirius patch with it)

I think that summarizes how I use it. I have a half baked patch bank for Uhbik I hope to finish someday.

krans
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24 posts since 10 Aug, 2017

Re: The magic of Uhbik

Post Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:51 am

Your point is very good, dlarseninclusive!
When looking at Uhbik as different modules in an effect processor rather than a bundle of basic plugins, they do come out more as a whole. Maybe even with an own Uhbik sound.
That way Uhbik-D is more comparable to Lyrebird than to Colour Copy, so to say.
That can make sense to me.

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CrystalWizard
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606 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbiti sw usa

Re: The magic of Uhbik

Post Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:42 pm

Uhbik is quite awesome IMO (as is Ubik). I just reread the manual recently to see if i was missing anything (not really but still).
I use Uhbik-A for small spaces quite frequently. To give instruments some “body.”
I use U-F and U-P quite a bit also. U-P is my favorite vst phase shifter. The tape machine flanging of U-F is sweet. The only other “modulation” effect that gets as much use is Ubermod.
Lately i’ve been using U-S for 50s science fiction effects (combined with tape style delay and reverb).
The EQ and delay are great also but i generally use others that i have (PSP).
+1 for Uhbik
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yellowmix
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694 posts since 11 Aug, 2012

Re: The magic of Uhbik

Post Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:32 pm

Like others said, the beauty of Uhbik is in combining them. But another fantastic aspect is how good parameter modulation sounds. The modulation is smooth without artifacts. For example put Uhbik-G on a drum loop, set it fully wet, bind those knobs to your hardware knobs (scale is pitchy, grainsize is good for stuttering), hit record, and twiddle them! Print it to audio, and you'll end up with excellent glitch source material to chop up.

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dlarseninclusive
KVRist
244 posts since 19 Nov, 2017 from Los Angeles

Re: The magic of Uhbik

Post Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:12 pm

I did the same thing, kinda begs for it. :D
CrystalWizard wrote:Uhbik is quite awesome IMO (as is Ubik). I just reread the manual recently to see if i was missing anything (not really but still).

raring
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6 posts since 14 Feb, 2012 from Germany,Luedinghausen

Re: The magic of Uhbik

Post Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:41 am

As far as I do remember, initially URS had the ENSONIQUE DP4 in mind , when he started the UHBIKs and promised those routing capabilities to come somewhere, but I think we can forget that and I´m curious what will come.

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dlarseninclusive
KVRist
244 posts since 19 Nov, 2017 from Los Angeles

Re: The magic of Uhbik

Post Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:47 pm

I think the advanced routing "Berlin Modular" development will get there some day.
raring wrote:As far as I do remember, initially URS had the ENSONIQUE DP4 in mind , when he started the UHBIKs and promised those routing capabilities to come somewhere, but I think we can forget that and I´m curious what will come.
This is something I am doing today, live performance recording and all I have is the stereo mix. Sounds great, short of a high rezo filter sweep in the mix here and there. Went though a lot of ideas trying to fix it. Looks like Uhbik-Q will do the trick.

Before
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What I have up now.
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dlarseninclusive
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244 posts since 19 Nov, 2017 from Los Angeles

Re: The magic of Uhbik

Post Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:49 pm

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dlarseninclusive
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Re: The magic of Uhbik

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