Uhbik 2.0 - Concepts & Roadmap

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KVRAF
1847 posts since 12 Jan, 2019

Post Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:58 am

I'm in.
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KVRist
256 posts since 11 Jan, 2014

Post Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:03 pm

A rack, I was hoping for that. Awesome stuff! Im hoping it has good routing capabilities such as series, parallel and feedback paths.

KVRAF
3538 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:32 pm

RobGee wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:03 pm
A rack, I was hoping for that. Awesome stuff! Im hoping it has good routing capabilities such as series, parallel and feedback paths.
And third party plugs and macros :hihi:

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KVRist
256 posts since 11 Jan, 2014

Post Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:32 am

Ploki wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:32 pm
RobGee wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:03 pm
A rack, I was hoping for that. Awesome stuff! Im hoping it has good routing capabilities such as series, parallel and feedback paths.
And third party plugs
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Urs
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25465 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

Post Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:03 am

Ploki wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:32 pm
RobGee wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:03 pm
A rack, I was hoping for that. Awesome stuff! Im hoping it has good routing capabilities such as series, parallel and feedback paths.
And third party plugs and macros :hihi:
No

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KVRAF
21405 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:29 am

Macros would be super handy, tho...

KVRAF
3538 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:36 am

ikr?

KVRAF
8273 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:59 am

EvilDragon wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:29 am
Macros would be super handy, tho...
Agree with ED. I haven't followed the Uhbik Rack discussions at all so I'm just speaking in very general terms here. No idea what's planned for a potential Uhbik Rack but...

I always feel like there's no point in doing a Rack if it's not adding functionality not available by chaining plugins together in a DAW. Like the SoundToys Rack is an example of one that doesn't really add much value. What else do you get with that? A global mix knob? My take is: if you're going to do a rack, go the whole 9 yards and look to do things like: add some macro controls, global LFO's, add some parallel processing options, maybe expose some feedback loops on delays for inserts, stuff like that. That way the Rack actually adds a ton of value to the overall product line. If it's just about putting the plugins in a serial processing order without much else, I'd say skip it. I can set that up in my DAW at that point. Use those development hours elsewhere. But if you're going to build something like Patchwork/Late Replies (without third-party VST hosting), Byome/Triad, etc., that's where things get really interesting. And I'm sure it's way, way, way more complex and requires a whole crapload more time to get done.

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Urs
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25465 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

Post Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:11 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:59 am
EvilDragon wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:29 am
Macros would be super handy, tho...
Agree with ED. I haven't followed the Uhbik Rack discussions at all so I'm just speaking in very general terms here. No idea what's planned for a potential Uhbik Rack but...

I always feel like there's no point in doing a Rack if it's not adding functionality not available by chaining plugins together in a DAW. Like the SoundToys Rack is an example of one that doesn't really add much value. What else do you get with that? A global mix knob? My take is: if you're going to do a rack, go the whole 9 yards and look to do things like: add some macro controls, global LFO's, add some parallel processing options, maybe expose some feedback loops on delays for inserts, stuff like that. That way the Rack actually adds a ton of value to the overall product line. If it's just about putting the plugins in a serial processing order without much else, I'd say skip it. I can set that up in my DAW at that point. Use those development hours elsewhere. But if you're going to build something like Patchwork/Late Replies (without third-party VST hosting), Byome/Triad, etc., that's where things get really interesting. And I'm sure it's way, way, way more complex and requires a whole crapload more time to get done.
No worries. Just look at what we did for single Uhbiks, then extrapolate and add routing/multiband options into the mix.

Macros (XYs) are a bitch to set up in a modular environment. Easy in Hive, very difficult in Zebra. No chance to auto-assign in Uhbik rack thingy. Too much burden to sound designers, resulting in fewer presets, less acceptance.

KVRAF
8273 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:10 am

Sounds good Urs!

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KVRAF
1847 posts since 12 Jan, 2019

Post Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:33 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:59 am
What else do you get with that?
Well, I do look forward to presets--and maybe the community would share cool presets as well. But not important to everyone.
"Have you ever noticed how anyone driving faster than you is a [jerk] and anyone driving slower than you is a moron?" - George Carlin

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KVRist
256 posts since 11 Jan, 2014

Post Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:43 pm

Great, it sounds like there will be decent routing and modulation options. I’m really looking forward to it. I totally agree with what has been said about the SoundToys rack, to me it seems pointless other than the fact you can save effects chains and easily transport them between different DAWs.

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KVRer
5 posts since 30 Mar, 2020 from Karlsruhe, Germany

Post Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:34 am

I didn't demoed 2.0 but I'm so excited about the upcoming release.
Can't believe it'll be free for existing users!

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KVRist
103 posts since 7 Apr, 2018

Post Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:26 pm

Hi,

somehow I think I need this :D

I have two questions though:
I guess there are no linux versions of 2.0 yet, at least I didn't find any alpha versions, right?

When I buy the old version the upgrade is still for free? And how long is the special price valid?

Cheers

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Urs
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25465 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

Post Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:48 pm

lilith93 wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:26 pm
I guess there are no linux versions of 2.0 yet, at least I didn't find any alpha versions, right?
That's quite likely, we've recently only updated Linux installers of some of our current products.
When I buy the old version the upgrade is still for free? And how long is the special price valid?
Yes, upgrade from v1 to v2 will be free. V1 pricing will end when v2 is released. Our estimated release timing is off though, we had to juggle a few things lately.

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