I will give you money for this.
Can you turn this maths into sound as well?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_h ... oscillator
When you find that everything has been done already?
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Ecclesiastes ch 1soundmodel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:08 pm When you find that everything has been done already?
I find that a large portion of audio processing is not scientifically particularly novel, but merely some small reiteration on well-known principles. This saddens me.
But this also sparked the thought that "does this mean that everything doable has been done already"?
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https://www.kvraudio.com/product/angle-by-xoxosCinningBao wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:24 pmI will give you money for this.
Can you turn this maths into sound as well?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_h ... oscillator
although i don't know what happened to all the download links :asingletear:
the oscillator is very simple - 2d rotations for a 3d object producing gimbal lock (the lack of the fundamental). loved using it.
it'd be sweet to get the same kind of thing working with analog.
https://hackaday.com/2014/12/07/chaos-t ... s-circuit/
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Tweak the knobs
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I'd have a look at the Eurorack scene and the plethora of concepts which have no equivalent in plug-in space.
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i think we've arranged mass springs in a linear fashion (loved the dynamic response!) in planar and solid fashion for academics, but just yesterday i was thinking, i doubt anyone's arranged mass springs (or anything else) in a fashion like their marijuana tree, with simple parameterisation like wind, age, branching, which would i think translate quite sensibly to performance instrumentation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhdPZ-iz-s8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhdPZ-iz-s8
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There are infinitely many ways of how you can produce sounds, you can also make music out of everything. It doesn't really matter for mass audience.
However, this week I came up with ingenious business model so I need to give it a try.
However, this week I came up with ingenious business model so I need to give it a try.
Blog ------------- YouTube channel
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
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Well, that's what we thought some years ago - and then "Autotune" came out.soundmodel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:08 pm But this also sparked the thought that "does this mean that everything doable has been done already"?
No, everything has not been done yet but what that next "thing" is is TBD. It is certainly time for some entirely new, novel effect. If you have an idea, let me know!
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There are plenty of idea generation methods.
My favourite method is - to take the most unoptimized process and make it simple as "one knob" (I am writing small utilities for my workflow, scripts, midi plugins, not released yet). Maybe plugin for creating a chain of effects most usable in the workflow (I think that is how CLA Mixhub, or CLA Guitars, Vocals etc were created) It may be not universal, but.. It's unique.
Another method is make things better. For example - there is no comfortable voice tuning program still. For example, one tuning program - is limited to VST technology, navigating between tracks is time consuming, you can't edit different tracks simultaneously. Another one is better in this, but I find it's note recognition worse, than first. You can make something that takes best of two worlds.
And if you want to make completely unique thing - then you combine things, that never been combined before. Like... for example TransientSplitter+ Eq = SplitEq, made by Eventide recently, and promoted as "revolution in EQ". I agree, it's unique, and maybe revolutionary.
My favourite method is - to take the most unoptimized process and make it simple as "one knob" (I am writing small utilities for my workflow, scripts, midi plugins, not released yet). Maybe plugin for creating a chain of effects most usable in the workflow (I think that is how CLA Mixhub, or CLA Guitars, Vocals etc were created) It may be not universal, but.. It's unique.
Another method is make things better. For example - there is no comfortable voice tuning program still. For example, one tuning program - is limited to VST technology, navigating between tracks is time consuming, you can't edit different tracks simultaneously. Another one is better in this, but I find it's note recognition worse, than first. You can make something that takes best of two worlds.
And if you want to make completely unique thing - then you combine things, that never been combined before. Like... for example TransientSplitter+ Eq = SplitEq, made by Eventide recently, and promoted as "revolution in EQ". I agree, it's unique, and maybe revolutionary.
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Sometimes, to be a good programmer with good ideas, you need to be a User. And if you don't use a thing, or don't compose music, don't make records, then you can't find the niche in market.
I see: there's no comfortable voice tuning program. There's no pleasant distortion in the market (they want to sound like Marshall, they are close, but no.. still no). Maybe neural networks will do it.
There's no comfortable midi workflow for style making. There's Band in a Box. But how styles are made, only God knows.
I see: there's no comfortable voice tuning program. There's no pleasant distortion in the market (they want to sound like Marshall, they are close, but no.. still no). Maybe neural networks will do it.
There's no comfortable midi workflow for style making. There's Band in a Box. But how styles are made, only God knows.
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Good, but this is not the same issue. Autotune came, because there's FFT theory to explain the ideas of pitch shifting, transient modification, ...Fender19 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:36 pmWell, that's what we thought some years ago - and then "Autotune" came out.soundmodel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:08 pm But this also sparked the thought that "does this mean that everything doable has been done already"?
No, everything has not been done yet but what that next "thing" is is TBD. It is certainly time for some entirely new, novel effect. If you have an idea, let me know!
My question revolves around the limits of signal processing and why it seems like plenty of what's been said mathematically has already been done in sound.
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There's a difference between how tools are used and what they're designed to be used for.DJ Warmonger wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:06 am There are infinitely many ways of how you can produce sounds, you can also make music out of everything.
One could argue that a full DAW with plug-ins and all is surely more versatile than any single plug-in. But this is not a fair comparison, because a plug-in designer does not design "a full DAW with all the plug-ins". And no one single has truly designed the "combination" of DAW and plug-ins. Yet it's more versatile than the DAW or any of the plug-ins.
Sort of like how a programming language designer does not design all the ways the programming language is used. Yet he/she is in principle dictating what the language is about. So who determined "boundaries" really?
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"3d knots" (3d oscillators)
written by paul bourke
1992
http://paulbourke.net/geometry/knots/
any time you want to stop thinking about freaking distortion and autotune
every time one of you talks about distortion, it makes one more time i don't use distortion
shut up about it so i can do it too because it isn't being done all the time. god my music sounds boring.
written by paul bourke
1992
http://paulbourke.net/geometry/knots/
any time you want to stop thinking about freaking distortion and autotune
every time one of you talks about distortion, it makes one more time i don't use distortion
shut up about it so i can do it too because it isn't being done all the time. god my music sounds boring.You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
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I hope that some kid* will find an unusual way to utilize some of those Apple Mx features — unified memory, integrated GPU cores, machine learning, various accelerators etc.
*It‘s probably madness for an established industry player to invest resources into a relative niche platform, but a nerd with a MacBook and without a customer base might discover something new.
*It‘s probably madness for an established industry player to invest resources into a relative niche platform, but a nerd with a MacBook and without a customer base might discover something new.
