Any news on Kontakt GUI?

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2483 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from skelmersdale, west lancs, uk

Post Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:02 am

Is is vector graphics / 4k resizeable yet?

Anyone know?

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EvilDragon
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Re: Any news on Kontakt GUI?

Post Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:15 pm

No. Gonna take time.

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1857 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Berkeley, CA

Re: Any news on Kontakt GUI?

Post Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:56 pm

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH :help:

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kevvvvv
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2483 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from skelmersdale, west lancs, uk

Re: Any news on Kontakt GUI?

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:50 am

It's been taking forever since forever :lol:

VitaminD
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8880 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion

Re: Any news on Kontakt GUI?

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:23 am

EvilDragon wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:15 pm
No. Gonna take time.
..how much time? It hasn't really changed much in 18 years thus far. That seems like a fair amount of time.

I'm very surprised (frustrated) it hasn't been a higher priority.

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EvilDragon
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19811 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Re: Any news on Kontakt GUI?

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:25 am

There's always something else that is higher priority (see Zebra 3). It is just a huge amount of work when the custom baked internal graphical toolkit NI used for everything until recently (when they started using Qt for Crush/Mod Pack and MX), was made 20 years ago and does not know about HiDPI at all. So, it's gonna take a lot of time, since basically the whole GUI and all bindings and interactions need to be reprogrammed from scratch. I cannot tell you how much time, but the scope of the work is humongous.

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telecode
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1906 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Re: Any news on Kontakt GUI?

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:46 am

maybe makes more sense to make a brand new product that supports 4k graphics but has the features of Kontakt.

enCiphered
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864 posts since 13 Dec, 2016

Re: Any news on Kontakt GUI?

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:50 am

Kontakt and Reaktor both need a GUI re-design asap, agree.

Why did the OP get a downvoting?

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24719 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Any news on Kontakt GUI?

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:01 am

enCiphered wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:50 am
Why did the OP get a downvoting?
TBH, I stopped trying to imagine why posts get downvoted here. Kids. Enough said.
Plugins and a DAW. On a operating system. Which runs on a computer.

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EvilDragon
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19811 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Re: Any news on Kontakt GUI?

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:37 am

telecode wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:46 am
maybe makes more sense to make a brand new product that supports 4k graphics but has the features of Kontakt.
True, but this is basically what I said. It's still a pretty monumental task, considering bajillion of features that are in there.

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Re: Any news on Kontakt GUI?

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:41 am

EvilDragon wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:25 am
There's always something else that is higher priority (see Zebra 3).
There shouldn't be at this point. The UI was designed in an era of Pentium III's and 1024x768, 4:3 ratio tube monitors.

It's absurd that 2 decades later, the flagship sampler platform, for a company that has done so much on it, still has such an antiquated interface. I'm sure it's a huge undertaking, but there should be a serious effort dedicated on this as a top priority. Not kicking the can down the road further simply because it is a lot of work.

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EvilDragon
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19811 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Re: Any news on Kontakt GUI?

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:59 am

Well, we don't get to decide what is top priority at any given time. You can bet Mac on ARM is gonna postpone things some more.

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KVRAF
5287 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Re: Any news on Kontakt GUI?

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:03 am

I dont think Kontakt will ever get a modern GUI update, NI will just keep going with all the old stuff for as long as they can just adding more pre-sets and Sample packs. Even if Kontakt was updated, I would imagen ever 3rd party developer would also have to update their GUI's against a new framework to realy see any benefit.

I much prefer falcon, but Kontakt has the library and developers legacy (stuff like Output). If they ever make a 'Falcon' version I would switch 'Kompletely'
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1906 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Re: Any news on Kontakt GUI?

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:31 am

VitaminD wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:41 am
EvilDragon wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:25 am
There's always something else that is higher priority (see Zebra 3).
There shouldn't be at this point. The UI was designed in an era of Pentium III's and 1024x768, 4:3 ratio tube monitors.

It's absurd that 2 decades later, the flagship sampler platform, for a company that has done so much on it, still has such an antiquated interface. I'm sure it's a huge undertaking, but there should be a serious effort dedicated on this as a top priority. Not kicking the can down the road further simply because it is a lot of work.
Kontakt 6 was release in 2018, no?

Just curious what % of user base are on 4k monitors? NI should do a survey. My DAW setup still uses 10 year old CPU and monitor. Everything looks find on my setup.

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KVRian
1283 posts since 15 Feb, 2020

Re: Any news on Kontakt GUI?

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:32 pm

Reckon most folks are using computers newer than 10 years old. Still, good for you.

Kontakt is too small for me so when I use it I command + scroll the entire screen to zoom in.

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