Doesn’t exactly make me want to buy more.
mgw38 wrote: I paid 119$ for it 18 months ago. I think they more or less retired that product line after they released Anthology last year.
mgw38 wrote: I paid 119$ for it 18 months ago. I think they more or less retired that product line after they released Anthology last year.
Well don't expect it to get fixed. BTW, I got 8Dios attention in VI-forum. Sadly they popped in to make some accusations and false statement that they would have sorted it out if I hade contacted them in the proper channels. Which was an absurd thing since I contacted them as they requested and even asked for them twice too look at my case and reconsider it. They also said that they would not respond more. I managed to squeeze in a reply just before the thread got locked by the admin. Feels like VI-control is biased in favour of devs. I saw other discussions that had been tucked away before.topaz wrote:No problem with that but fix the bugs at least.
Doesn’t exactly make me want to buy more.
mgw38 wrote: I paid 119$ for it 18 months ago. I think they more or less retired that product line after they released Anthology last year.
A long thread with a lot of different opinions, some of which are not 8DIO advocacy?dandezebra wrote: Please someone lock this thread before it turns into this:
I edited my previous post to reflect what I was actually thinking. I rushed the post.jancivil wrote:A long thread with a lot of different opinions, some of which are not 8DIO advocacy?dandezebra wrote: Please someone lock this thread before it turns into this:
Are you representing 8DIO with this? What is your interest?
No problem. As you know the thread was locked down before I could respond to you all. I was watching the soccer world cup and was only trying to respond in the intermissions and there were many questions to answer. I did not skip any by purpose. I went back to reading the thread over again and just found almost an entire pages of post that I did not see while trying to catch up om my iPhone. In that was a long post from an 8Dio resentative that I had not seen at all. My bad and I agree that it seems very weird that I did not respond to it. But if you look at the times you see that there were quite a few post made in a short timespan. I picked up answering again further down and got harrassed for not mailing them and tried to reply that I this is who it all started. They did not want to discuss it with me over mail och chat.dandezebra wrote:You also managed to ignore all help from 8Dio in the thread - not squeezing in any replies at all while responding to others. Why didn't you respond to 8Dio again? I asked there and you ignored me... I wonder why Admin locked it.
Your horseballs about the 8Dio agent don't include their first two posts in that thread by the way. Interesting reading!
Please stay polite and reply to folks so the thread doesn't get locked like this:
https://vi-control.net/community/thread ... osa.72647/
PS - Hope I can post this here. If not, let me know or delete.
Hello. Yes. Nice to hear about your good experiences with SoundIron, wish I had started with them instead. I don't think you need to read all the post in that thread cause many pointed out from the start that their EULA is not unusual and that I should not expect to get any kind of refund and instead try and fix the library myself or look for some part of it that I could use in any other project. So it was a long discussion about it. A good discussion about why many have that EULA and such. Educational and I wish I had it 3 weeks ago.jancivil wrote:Well, I don't post there. I can't tell from 9 pages of that thread what your handle is there from what I see here.
I did want to know if you were 8DIO. I may not want to read any more, it's becoming circular.
AHA: page 11 "OP, you actually never responded to tawnia or sent another E-mail? Really!?!"
Yeah, I'm not taking sides in that, that's for sure! I just kind of don't like 8DIO, and I would not buy that library for more reasons from there than I had here, which was almost nothing at all. Moot point because I'd prolly buy Soundiron .
I don't agree with a number of specifics there but whatever. I find the apologetics for 8DIO from some preposterous but in general the developer vs end user tension is there throughout. And that is a bad sign.
I have one take on the difference between the liberalism of Soundiron vs a couple other similarly-sized developers, and that is down to community and generosity which may not be available to some, and it is also a matter of generosity of spirit which is not my impression of 8DIO culture at all. The one representative posting there "Warmly" notwithstanding. I don't think Mike is super-rich while Troels is struggling terribly, if you get my drift.
The "Warmly" person went off in her second post, lol. It's same as it ever was, money f**ks shit up but that's how the world turns.
Yes, there are in deed things that one would like to know in advance and some things you have to learn at great expense and pain. I have recently learned a lot from buying from 8Dio and also from trying to warn others from them. Said warning also applies in a broader sense to all developers that use the onesides EULA that leaves us as customers without any hope for corrections/resale/refunds. I don't need to rehash that again cause it is in the first post here, but I have learned some more now.bharris22 wrote:I also had a less than satisfactory experience with 8dio/Troels in the Tonehammer days - not based on customer service, but a strange experience with the libraries. I purchased the Forgotten Voices collection, and after downloading and trying it out, realized that the various vocal phrases were not organized by key. When I asked Troels about this in an e-mail exchange, he said that there were no notes from the sessions that would indicate the key of each phrase, and no way to determine which notes were in each phrase. I was advised that they were trying to capture the essence and emotion of the vocals, not specific notes, and I should use them for inspiration/improvisation, "using them freely, since they were created in a free spirit." I do like the phrases, but without any sort of guidepost regarding the key of each phrase, I have found the libraries extremely difficult to work with and they have basically sat on my hard drive for the past five years. I assumed that there would be some correlation to the key that is pressed and the key of a particular phrase, but there is not. I wish I would have known that before purchasing. YMMV, of course.
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