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KVRAF
3829 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Wed May 27, 2020 12:42 pm

El°HYM wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 10:10 am
Ploki wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 11:39 pm
does anyone know if Melda referral code works only for the first purchase, or only once, or...

I want to buy a couple plugins, but will probably wait for the BF sale, and i don't want to spend my first voucher on the single plug i need to buy during this week's eternal madness. :)
I have a referral if you need one & I also would wait for the bigger bundle, as my first purchase was also the free pack, so I could have saved more, yet it is also a pretty solid pack. So no regret. :tu:
sure, drop it to PM. better than randos from coupon pages. :)
PA sucks

KVRAF
3829 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Wed May 27, 2020 1:29 pm

El°HYM wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 10:10 am
Ploki wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 11:39 pm
does anyone know if Melda referral code works only for the first purchase, or only once, or...

I want to buy a couple plugins, but will probably wait for the BF sale, and i don't want to spend my first voucher on the single plug i need to buy during this week's eternal madness. :)
I have a referral if you need one & I also would wait for the bigger bundle, as my first purchase was also the free pack, so I could have saved more, yet it is also a pretty solid pack. So no regret. :tu:
You have PM's disabled? :o

thanks, sorry i can't reply to your PM :D
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KVRian
777 posts since 21 Nov, 2015

Post Wed May 27, 2020 1:35 pm

Hmmm, strange. I didnt change anything in there & normally can receive msg, Just added you to my friend list, maybe it works now?

Edit: No, you was right, the setting was set to 'no' which is strange as there are some messages in there, too. But should work now, as usual. :oops:
The art of knowing is knowing what to ignore.

KVRian
1355 posts since 21 Sep, 2013 from California

Post Wed May 27, 2020 2:29 pm

v1o wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 8:57 am
goldenanalog wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 8:38 am
Magix is an interesting company; although one gets the impression that they’re more of a holdings company at this point.

Having said that: Samplitude is a big deal - always has been, but it seems that every new version starts out buggy - it eventually gets largely ironed out, tho.

They now own almost all the old Sony Professional content: Vegas, Acid, Sound Forge - the legacy Sonic Foundry stuff. And they’ve been recently updating it: 64 bit; etc.

They also own Sequoia - that’s Samplitude’s big brother; the way Nuendo is to Cubase.

Speaking of which:

There seems to a connection between Magix and Steinberg: Steinberg now owns Spectralayers; but Spectralayers is also associated with Magix - you’re going to get the next version of SL when it drops if you buy the X5 Suite - seems very unusual if Steinberg owns the ip, unless there’s a relationship there.
goldenanalog wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 8:45 am
Magix is legit. Weird, different - are probably suitable adjectives to describe. Complicated could be one.

Here’s Sequoia, btw:

https://www.magix.com/us/music/sequoia/

- the above link resolves to Samplitude X5 on my phone for some reason. Here’s another link that helps to identify the differences:

https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/magix-seq ... _variant=a
To add to the weirdness, Magix used to sell a cut down DAW based on Logic Pro, called Magix Music Maker. They had some kind of relationship with Emagic before they got took over by Apple.

The one thing I don't understand is why Samplitude is regularly heavily discounted. That's unusual for high end professional tools. Software like Pyramix, Pro Tools and Soundblade doesn't get discounted like that because its not aimed at consumers but at professionals and institutions.
I think Sequoia is still considered a pro product. Samplitude was a really good DAW when it came out, but then, the competition was not that tough then. If you think about it, they sell version 4 for $149. If you want to upgrade to the current version with all the latest bells and whistles, it's another $150 to $200, which brings it in line with something like Studio One. What is weird is that they do sell old versions. No other DAW company does that as far as I know.

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Banned
2290 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Post Wed May 27, 2020 3:23 pm

dzilizzi wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:29 pm
v1o wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 8:57 am
goldenanalog wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 8:38 am
Magix is an interesting company; although one gets the impression that they’re more of a holdings company at this point.

Having said that: Samplitude is a big deal - always has been, but it seems that every new version starts out buggy - it eventually gets largely ironed out, tho.

They now own almost all the old Sony Professional content: Vegas, Acid, Sound Forge - the legacy Sonic Foundry stuff. And they’ve been recently updating it: 64 bit; etc.

They also own Sequoia - that’s Samplitude’s big brother; the way Nuendo is to Cubase.

Speaking of which:

There seems to a connection between Magix and Steinberg: Steinberg now owns Spectralayers; but Spectralayers is also associated with Magix - you’re going to get the next version of SL when it drops if you buy the X5 Suite - seems very unusual if Steinberg owns the ip, unless there’s a relationship there.
goldenanalog wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 8:45 am
Magix is legit. Weird, different - are probably suitable adjectives to describe. Complicated could be one.

Here’s Sequoia, btw:

https://www.magix.com/us/music/sequoia/

- the above link resolves to Samplitude X5 on my phone for some reason. Here’s another link that helps to identify the differences:

https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/magix-seq ... _variant=a
To add to the weirdness, Magix used to sell a cut down DAW based on Logic Pro, called Magix Music Maker. They had some kind of relationship with Emagic before they got took over by Apple.

The one thing I don't understand is why Samplitude is regularly heavily discounted. That's unusual for high end professional tools. Software like Pyramix, Pro Tools and Soundblade doesn't get discounted like that because its not aimed at consumers but at professionals and institutions.
I think Sequoia is still considered a pro product. Samplitude was a really good DAW when it came out, but then, the competition was not that tough then. If you think about it, they sell version 4 for $149. If you want to upgrade to the current version with all the latest bells and whistles, it's another $150 to $200, which brings it in line with something like Studio One. What is weird is that they do sell old versions. No other DAW company does that as far as I know.
yeah. i am getting the impression Magix business model is a little like Corel's over here in Canada. You can either buy the new version or just keep buying their old version at 90% off.
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KVRian
1367 posts since 21 Dec, 2013 from USA

Post Wed May 27, 2020 7:20 pm

I am confused... Like usual!

Did Sample Logic update CinemorphX or just put it on sale?

KVRist
110 posts since 10 Sep, 2019

Post Wed May 27, 2020 7:28 pm

dandezebra wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 7:20 pm
I am confused... Like usual!

Did Sample Logic update CinemorphX or just put it on sale?
They released a version that doesn't run in Kontakt player for slightly cheaper

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KVRAF
12412 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California

Post Wed May 27, 2020 9:36 pm

telecode wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 3:55 pm
I am in same boat. if SL does go on sale, it will probably by 50% off. so I guess $150. which makes this decent as you get Samplitude. Not that I know what I would use it for yet.
FWIW, the iZotope RX Crossgrade is $99 right now. I love using RX for spectral editing.

KVRAF
3074 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle

Post Wed May 27, 2020 10:39 pm

Best Service have great prices on Melodyne 5.
Upgrade from any version of Essential to 5 Editor is $275.

KVRian
909 posts since 24 Jan, 2014

Post Thu May 28, 2020 12:48 am

Uncle E wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 9:36 pm
telecode wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 3:55 pm
I am in same boat. if SL does go on sale, it will probably by 50% off. so I guess $150. which makes this decent as you get Samplitude. Not that I know what I would use it for yet.
FWIW, the iZotope RX Crossgrade is $99 right now. I love using RX for spectral editing.
Very nice price at $84 in the cart, upgrade from any paid iZotope product. Nice!

KVRian
921 posts since 10 Jan, 2018

Post Thu May 28, 2020 7:04 am

dzilizzi wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 7:25 pm
agharta wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 11:04 am
dzilizzi wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 10:57 am
You do get Spectral Layers though, even though the sold it to Steinberg. They must still have some deal because I recently bought the 5 Suite which comes with Spectral Layers 6 with a free upgrade to 7.
Great. Is that the full version of SL6 that you can use standalone and is registered via Steinberg? No dongle required I believe!
Yes full standalone license.
Thanks.

There's an offer on today for the following for £87.20 using the code FREEDOM2020:

SOUND FORGE PRO 13
STEINBERG SPECTRALAYERS PRO 6
Celemony Melodyne Essentials
Plus a few iZotope Essentials

I think the 20% code expires today but the main deal at £109 is good until June 1st.
https://shop.magix.com/en_GB/magix/bask ... B0Iq7wJJJq

KVRist
55 posts since 19 Jun, 2018 from USA

Post Thu May 28, 2020 7:20 am

v1o wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 8:43 am
russeault wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 5:55 am
I'm pretty sure that WA Prods are the same people as pluginboutique
Maybe if you said WA and Soundspot were the same people?


Anyway WA are based in Dubai UAE. And PB are in Brighton England. WA production produce a lot of shovelware that they flog on PB, VST Buzz and APD.
Thanks v1o, I didn't expect a technical discussion. . .
I did some research to back up my thinly sourced suspicions - WA was started by a Czech person (or at least Eastern European) so even though they may be Dubai, that's more than likely for tax purposes rather than someone of that particular ethnicity. So country of registration is fungible and is unlikely to be the actual place of business. PB and WA are listed as partners on the WA website, but couldn't find evidence that they're as tight at PB and Loopmasters. Nonetheless, PB seems to have a very close relationship with WA, based on distribution.

Re Samplitude, I spent weeks poring over the Samplitude forums several years ago trying to figure out if I want to buy it (Kraznet is the man!). They were filled with people complaining that major stability bugs haven't been corrected and Magix keeps putting out new versions with a bit of sparkle but doesn't correct existing issues. Granted, just about every DAW has threads like that, but Samplitude had a lot. Together with the way that they seem to pick up assets past their prime (Vegas, Acid, Soundforge(argument in 3. . .2. . 1)) on the cheap and bury you under spam ($1600 value, yours for $600, best ever sale for $399, secret link for $150), and sell off things that people want (Spectralayers) to turn a quick buck, they seem more like a Bain-type vulture investor with an out of control marketing arm than a software development company. Not trying to start a fight, not much interest in replying, hope this finds everyone well.

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KVRAF
3871 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui

Post Thu May 28, 2020 7:23 am

Well I gotta say, I thought the 112 db Mikron Bundle upgrade was uncommonly generous,
I had bought half of them at release, and upgrading cost me a whopping $3.

KVRAF
4932 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Post Thu May 28, 2020 9:07 am

agharta wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 7:04 am
dzilizzi wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 7:25 pm
agharta wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 11:04 am
dzilizzi wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 10:57 am
You do get Spectral Layers though, even though the sold it to Steinberg. They must still have some deal because I recently bought the 5 Suite which comes with Spectral Layers 6 with a free upgrade to 7.
Great. Is that the full version of SL6 that you can use standalone and is registered via Steinberg? No dongle required I believe!
Yes full standalone license.
Thanks.

There's an offer on today for the following for £87.20 using the code FREEDOM2020:

SOUND FORGE PRO 13
STEINBERG SPECTRALAYERS PRO 6
Celemony Melodyne Essentials
Plus a few iZotope Essentials

I think the 20% code expires today but the main deal at £109 is good until June 1st.
https://shop.magix.com/en_GB/magix/bask ... B0Iq7wJJJq
It would not take the code: FREEDOM2020
At £87.20 or $97 it is a great deal.
or wait for the Amplitude Pro at $250 but may go to $199 by Black Friday but will include
SOUND FORGE PRO 13
STEINBERG SPECTRALAYERS PRO 6 and 7

Wonder what the update from SPECTRALAYERS PRO 6 to V7 will be?

KVRian
921 posts since 10 Jan, 2018

Post Thu May 28, 2020 9:12 am

Kalamata Kid wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 9:07 am
It would not take the code: FREEDOM2020
At £87.20 or $97 it is a great deal.
or wait for the Amplitude Pro at $250 but may go to $199 by Black Friday but will include
SOUND FORGE PRO 13
STEINBERG SPECTRALAYERS PRO 6 and 7
I was surprised it worked as it doesn't even work for regular Upgrades but still working for me though in the UK.
It was due to expire today or yesterday.
I usually write down a day earlier to be safe.

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