Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

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plexuss
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3614 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Post Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:27 pm

Harry_HH wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:22 pm
telecode wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:22 pm
Koshdukai wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:54 am
telecode wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:27 am
Koshdukai wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:57 am
...speaking of which, if I hadn't spent enough on 3 UVI suites recently, I would've upgraded to VV3 :P ...but, unfortunately, life'n'stuff... :oops:
I am really liking the UVI Digital Synsations. My upgrade price for VV3 is $349. Is that a decent deal?
If you only own 1 UVI product (free?), that's not a bad deal, given that the full price is $599, you're getting 41% discount, if my math is right... though currently it's only $399 intro price, but still, it's a nice discount on top of the current sale for an "upgrade", I guess :)
yes. its 41% off. Not bad. Only thing holding be back. I have too many VSTs. All of Arturia. All of NI. Plus some. :-(

But I like the sound of that Japanese Synth collection.
The UVI pricing is most unfair ever.
I own 11 UVI products, I've invested many, many hundreds for those.
The price of VV3 for me is € 299, note that for me the price is in euros,
which means $ 333. No voucher given to me.

So, for me, owner of 11 UVI products VV3 = $ 333,
for you, invested 0 so far to UVI, VV3 = $ 399.
Fair?

On my behalf, UVI can f**k off, they can stuff their VV3 where the sun doesn't shine. :x
But if you buy VV3 are you not getting a completely new license and download? Meaning your 11 UVI products are still licenses which you can then sell to recoup some $$? WIth 11 of them, selling for $30 each (plus $25 ilok = $55) you could end up with VV3 and break even...? Or sell for less and still get a good upgrade cost to VV3? Mayeb I am wrong... But I don't think your existing UVI products have to be surrended for the VV3 license. can anyone confirm or deny?

Also, there are 30 products in VV3 and you have 11, meaning for $333 you get 19 more products which is $18 each - not to bad a deal.

Mind you yes, the $400 non-upgrade price is a hard pill to swallow, however in the land of music software the caveat emptor rule of thumb is "Want a better price? Wait. Want is now? Pay more." :phones:

I sent UVI an question about this. If the products you own become free and clear then paying the $300-350 upgrade price coudl end up being a great deal as long as you are ok selling off your duplicate products.

escalona
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649 posts since 16 Jan, 2018 from Portland, OR USA

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:46 pm

plexuss wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:27 pm
Harry_HH wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:22 pm
telecode wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:22 pm
Koshdukai wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:54 am
telecode wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:27 am
Koshdukai wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:57 am
...speaking of which, if I hadn't spent enough on 3 UVI suites recently, I would've upgraded to VV3 :P ...but, unfortunately, life'n'stuff... :oops:
I am really liking the UVI Digital Synsations. My upgrade price for VV3 is $349. Is that a decent deal?
If you only own 1 UVI product (free?), that's not a bad deal, given that the full price is $599, you're getting 41% discount, if my math is right... though currently it's only $399 intro price, but still, it's a nice discount on top of the current sale for an "upgrade", I guess :)
yes. its 41% off. Not bad. Only thing holding be back. I have too many VSTs. All of Arturia. All of NI. Plus some. :-(

But I like the sound of that Japanese Synth collection.
The UVI pricing is most unfair ever.
I own 11 UVI products, I've invested many, many hundreds for those.
The price of VV3 for me is € 299, note that for me the price is in euros,
which means $ 333. No voucher given to me.

So, for me, owner of 11 UVI products VV3 = $ 333,
for you, invested 0 so far to UVI, VV3 = $ 399.
Fair?

On my behalf, UVI can f**k off, they can stuff their VV3 where the sun doesn't shine. :x
But if you buy VV3 are you not getting a completely new license and download? Meaning your 11 UVI products are still licenses which you can then sell to recoup some $$? WIth 11 of them, selling for $30 each (plus $25 ilok = $55) you could end up with VV3 and break even...? Or sell for less and still get a good upgrade cost to VV3? Mayeb I am wrong... But I don't think your existing UVI products have to be surrended for the VV3 license. can anyone confirm or deny?

Also, there are 30 products in VV3 and you have 11, meaning for $333 you get 19 more products which is $18 each - not to bad a deal.

Mind you yes, the $400 non-upgrade price is a hard pill to swallow, however in the land of music software the caveat emptor rule of thumb is "Want a better price? Wait. Want is now? Pay more." :phones:

I sent UVI an question about this. If the products you own become free and clear then paying the $300-350 upgrade price coudl end up being a great deal as long as you are ok selling off your duplicate products.
I'll buy some of those duplicates... :hihi:
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telecode
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1552 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:01 am

plexuss wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:27 pm
Also, there are 30 products in VV3 and you have 11, meaning for $333 you get 19 more products which is $18 each - not to bad a deal.
How many of those 30 products are recent, as in released in last 2 years and how many are older? They doing same thing as NI and Komplete? Most of the stuff in the package/bundle are products that are quite old and haven't been update in long time?

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LoveEnigma18
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Post Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:19 am

FYI from UVI website:
Pricing Terms and Conditions
Owners of Vintage Vault and Vintage Vault 2 are eligible for upgrade pricing (see table for details)

Owners of individual product(s) included in Vintage Vault 3 totaling in value of $149 or more (MSRP) are eligible for upgrade pricing (see table for details)

Upgrade pricing is available to people who have purchased individual products anytime, including those obtained during promotions

NFR licenses may not be upgraded

Resale of individual products obtained in a bundle or used to upgrade to a bundle are not allowed

Owners of Vintage Vault or Vintage Vault 2 and at least one of the new products included in version 3 have been contacted via email with a tiered discount voucher as an additional savings towards the Vintage Vault 3 upgrade price

Vintage Vault 3 introductory pricing and promotional vouchers are valid through January 31st, 2020 only

Regular upgrade prices will take effect on February 1st (see table for details) and will be available to all qualifying customers

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plexuss
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3614 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:01 am

telecode wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:01 am
plexuss wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:27 pm
Also, there are 30 products in VV3 and you have 11, meaning for $333 you get 19 more products which is $18 each - not to bad a deal.
How many of those 30 products are recent, as in released in last 2 years and how many are older? They doing same thing as NI and Komplete? Most of the stuff in the package/bundle are products that are quite old and haven't been update in long time?
I asked UVI how it works: The system is automated - if you own products in VV3 and buy VV3 using upgrade pricing the system will revoke the licenses for your single products and give you VV3. They said the way around this is to buy it under an account without VV3 products and then you can sell those in the other account. I am not sure how this works with iLok, if you can use the same iLok account with 2 different UVI accounts...

simmo75
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1800 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle

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Post Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:27 am

plexuss wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:01 am
telecode wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:01 am
plexuss wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:27 pm
Also, there are 30 products in VV3 and you have 11, meaning for $333 you get 19 more products which is $18 each - not to bad a deal.
How many of those 30 products are recent, as in released in last 2 years and how many are older? They doing same thing as NI and Komplete? Most of the stuff in the package/bundle are products that are quite old and haven't been update in long time?
I asked UVI how it works: The system is automated - if you own products in VV3 and buy VV3 using upgrade pricing the system will revoke the licenses for your single products and give you VV3. They said the way around this is to buy it under an account without VV3 products and then you can sell those in the other account. I am not sure how this works with iLok, if you can use the same iLok account with 2 different UVI accounts...
This is interesting, I just checked my iLok and UVI accounts and I have VV3 as it's own iLok and still shows 8 of my UVI instruments as separate products that I can transfer, the licenses have not been revoked. My UVI account shows them as single instruments too. It looks like I should be able to sell them. I'll drop them a line.

Edit: UVI have got back to me, they will not approve the transfers.

Mushy Mushy
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Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:10 am

Uncle E wrote:up to 90% off Softube
Hi Eric, just received this mail.
What Softube is 90% off? I don't see more than 56%.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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mgw38
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2222 posts since 26 Jul, 2015 from Philadelphia

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Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:49 am

Mushy Mushy wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:10 am
Uncle E wrote:up to 90% off Softube
Hi Eric, just received this mail.
What Softube is 90% off? I don't see more than 56%.
The email reads: "up to 90% off Softube, Black Rooster, DJ Swivel, Waves, GRM Tools, & more". It actually says "up to 56% of Softube" in the second sentence. ;)

Bleulander
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64 posts since 21 Oct, 2017

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Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:56 am

Does anybody know any other stores that sell W.A Production plugins.
I mist the sale at W.A Production & Pluginboutique for Venom Granular FX.

Ou_Tis
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516 posts since 10 Jul, 2018

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Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:41 pm

I was looking for a good Kontakt drum library with round robins... and found Drumdrops Yamaha Hybrid on sale for $13.50 (BFD format is also $13.50). "1000 available for $13.50, 572 purchases left Next price point - $27" Signing up for their newsletter also gives you a 20% off voucher code.

[Edit: from past comments in this thread it looks like an identical Drumdrops sale on the Yamaha kit was going on in 2017 "for a long time"? Presumably they haven't been doing this "1000 available" sale for years? The "number available" did go down by 1 after my purchase....]

Chocolate Audio's winter sale seems to still be going on. For how much longer I wonder?... Their Kontakt drums seem promising---especially the more recent ones---but they don't seem to make "best of" lists or get recommended often?... They do allow license resale.

I could use the $25 e-voucher to get Native Instruments "Maschine Drum Selection" for $24 but since there's no mention of round robins (for the acoustic kits) I'd guess it doesn't have them?

I saw FNK-4 (Loop Loft) recommended on one list of Kontakt drum libraries and it's on sale for $99 (down from $149; also got a "spin the wheel" 20% off voucher, and after I visited the website but didn't buy anything they sent me a 30% off voucher---both vouchers only good for 24 hours, not sure if I can combine them), but it doesn't seem to have round robins, even though most of the content is acoustic. But it does have "randomisation of pan and pitch, the last ranging between +/-100 cents and proving handy for gentle hit-to-hit variation" (Music Radar). Apparently NFR.

Realitone holiday sale is still going on---Realidrums for $100 rather than $300. Kontakt Player. "30-day full refund policy" [Edit: no mention of round robins on their product info page, but in their KVR forum they say, "Of course, all drums and cymbals are sampled at multiple velocities with round robins." NFR.]

Aside from Kontakt, Groove Agent expansions are also 50% off until February 5th and work with Groove Agent SE. I'd guess there won't be any issue storing the samples on a secondary hard drive, since I think that's where I already have the Groove Agent samples?...

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Uncle E
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11396 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California

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Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:58 pm

I use Maschine Drums Selections regularly and cannot hear round robins. Also, there is nothing spectacular about the sounds (I only use them because they're easy).

Air Music Tech Strike 2 just went on sale for $39. Have you checked it out? I don't really understand how it works but they make a lot of claims about their engine doing something to make drum parts sound more realistic and the sound demos do indeed sound very realistic. The drums were recorded at Blackbird Studios so I imagine they're quite good (the library Blackbird did for Slate is the most popular SSD and Trigger library). Here's Air Music Tech's description about the Strike engine:

Strike’s proprietary real-time performance engine eliminates the mechanized artifacts of typical sample-playback devices to deliver human results with unparalleled realism. The playing intensity can be increased to obtain a smooth dynamic response in the drum tone instead of audible velocity switches. With Strike, you can produce professional drum tracks that are impossible to create with conventional sampling technology.

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shidostrife
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686 posts since 22 Nov, 2016 from Tokyo, Japan

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:02 pm

Ou_Tis wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:41 pm
I was looking for a good Kontakt drum library with round robins... and found Drumdrops Yamaha Hybrid on sale for $13.50 (BFD format is also $13.50). "1000 available for $13.50, 572 purchases left Next price point - $27" Signing up for their newsletter also gives you a 20% off voucher code.

[Edit: from past comments in this thread it looks like an identical Drumdrops sale on the Yamaha kit was going on in 2017 "for a long time"? Presumably they haven't been doing this "1000 available" sale for years? The "number available" did go down by 1 after my purchase....]

Chocolate Audio's winter sale seems to still be going on. For how much longer I wonder?... Their Kontakt drums seem promising---especially the more recent ones---but they don't seem to make "best of" lists or get recommended often?... They do allow license resale.

I could use the $25 e-voucher to get Native Instruments "Maschine Drum Selection" for $24 but since there's no mention of round robins (for the acoustic kits) I'd guess it doesn't have them?

I saw FNK-4 (Loop Loft) recommended on one list of Kontakt drum libraries and it's on sale for $99 (down from $149; also got a "spin the wheel" 20% off voucher, and after I visited the website but didn't buy anything they sent me a 30% off voucher---both vouchers only good for 24 hours, not sure if I can combine them), but it doesn't seem to have round robins, even though most of the content is acoustic. But it does have "randomisation of pan and pitch, the last ranging between +/-100 cents and proving handy for gentle hit-to-hit variation" (Music Radar). Apparently NFR.

Realitone holiday sale is still going on---Realidrums for $100 rather than $300. Kontakt Player. "30-day full refund policy" [Edit: no mention of round robins on their product info page, but in their KVR forum they say, "Of course, all drums and cymbals are sampled at multiple velocities with round robins." NFR.]

Aside from Kontakt, Groove Agent expansions are also 50% off until February 5th and work with Groove Agent SE. I'd guess there won't be any issue storing the samples on a secondary hard drive, since I think that's where I already have the Groove Agent samples?...
I recommend NI's Studio Drummer or any of the Abbey Road Drummers that you like. You can use your e-voucher or wait for discount or maybe find them here. They're part of Komplete/Komplete Ultimate so people who upgraded recently usually sell them cheap.

yellowmix
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Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:18 pm

Ou_Tis wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:41 pm
I was looking for a good Kontakt drum library with round robins.
If you're open to non-Kontakt, I highly recommend Addictive Drums 2. It's currently on flash sale in different configurations. For $120 you can get your choice of 3 different kits (plus 3 individual percussions instruments and 3 MIDI packs). They are generally 12-16 velocity layers with 4-8 round robin per layer especially near the louder velocities.

So it's effectively $40 a kit plus MIDI. There's also a "Custom XL" for $198 for 6 of each which makes it $33/kit and covers a ton of use cases. You don't have to make your selections immediately either, you can take as long as you want.

If you really want to stick to Kontakt, then Drumdrops is a great choice in general. 12-24 velocity layers and up to 5 round robins per layer. No experience with the Yamaha kit but I like their Funk, Motown, and Memphis kits. Not sure what kind of music you do but both XLN and Drumdrops have diverse and genre-appropriation selections.

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frackermak
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116 posts since 22 Nov, 2018 from UK

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:32 am

Is there a Waves bundle that contains Vocal Rider?
Cheers

WatchTheGuitar
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440 posts since 30 Apr, 2019

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:53 am

frackermak wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:32 am
Is there a Waves bundle that contains Vocal Rider?
Cheers
Go to
https://www.waves.com/plugins/vocal-rider
And click on "Included In" to see the bundles it's in

This one
https://www.waves.com/bundles/morgan-page-emp-toolbox
Is the only one below $100 currently

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