Thanks SimonSampleconstruct wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:48 pm BH Simon Stockhausen.zipHere is a bunch of Blackhole presets, some of them are setup for parameter morphing.
Mac users install them under User (You)/Documents/Eventide/Blackhole/Presets
Windows? I don't know...
Eventide BLACKHOLE Plug-in Officially Released
- KVRAF
- 35276 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
- KVRist
- 130 posts since 4 Jan, 2019
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- KVRist
- 161 posts since 22 Apr, 2019
Shimmer and Blockhole sound very different to me.SteveWZ wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:02 amThanks!Blue Phase Music wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:38 am[EDIT2=(Quote)]Blue Phase Music wrote:Thank you.SLiC wrote:I love valhala shimmer, but I bought blackhole as well at this new low price (under 50 bucks) and have enjoyed playing with it. I think they both found good, but if I could only have one it would be shimmer as it can do the 'blackhole' type large ambient verbs and a lot more. It's all about the base sound you put the reverb on, from a big poly synth patch to a simple accoustic guitar, I can get great results with shimmer (but I do like blackhole as well, not sure I realy need both, but I have enjoyed playing with it and there are some cool presets included)
Based on this and a couple of other posts in this thread, I'll skip BH and go with Shimmer, as long as I can get something similar to BH with Shimmer, I figure, why not? I Doubt I need both.
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Okay, after the recommendations of getting Extraordinary Spaces, I'm giving the BH demo an honest try.
...... I purchased the "Extraordinary Spaces" presets to try with the BlackHole demo so maybe that made it sound significantly better. Amazing presets, those!
Both are great and have their own strengths.
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- KVRAF
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
Agreed! I love that BH sounds so clean and unmuffled (a bit like Adaptiverb).
Question: these small space reverbs, do you use them as ordinary vocal reverbs (etc) as well, or only for special effects?
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
- KVRAF
- 3261 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
Thank you SimonSampleconstruct wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:48 pm BH Simon Stockhausen.zipHere is a bunch of Blackhole presets, some of them are setup for parameter morphing.
Mac users install them under User (You)/Documents/Eventide/Blackhole/Presets
Windows? I don't know...
- KVRist
- 395 posts since 6 May, 2020
I came back to this thread with a question of why not too many people seem to use/enjoy Blackhole as much. I personally find Blackhole as one of my more interesting plugins that always comes to mind when talking about reverbs, but it never really comes up when discussing reverbs on this forum.
And looking back, I would assume it's that most people first jump to Shimmer, understandably, and the steep price point, which definitely makes it less than friendly, unless it's exactly what you're looking for.
Are there any other reasons? Because even though the price and alternatives are as good of a reason to have, I wonder why it never really gets mentioned.
And looking back, I would assume it's that most people first jump to Shimmer, understandably, and the steep price point, which definitely makes it less than friendly, unless it's exactly what you're looking for.
Are there any other reasons? Because even though the price and alternatives are as good of a reason to have, I wonder why it never really gets mentioned.
Take care
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- KVRAF
- 1891 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
Valhalla Supermassiveconsordini wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:44 am I came back to this thread with a question of why not too many people seem to use/enjoy Blackhole as much. I personally find Blackhole as one of my more interesting plugins that always comes to mind when talking about reverbs, but it never really comes up when discussing reverbs on this forum.
And looking back, I would assume it's that most people first jump to Shimmer, understandably, and the steep price point, which definitely makes it less than friendly, unless it's exactly what you're looking for.
Are there any other reasons? Because even though the price and alternatives are as good of a reason to have, I wonder why it never really gets mentioned.
Free. Fun. Fantastic.
Don’t recall the last time I used Blackhole....
- KVRist
- 395 posts since 6 May, 2020
I've been using Supermassive quite a lot recently as well, although the question stemmed from before Supermassive was available, not to mention Supermassive still doesn't get recommended as much in the general context, even though it's slowly growing in reputation.
Fair point nonetheless.
Fair point nonetheless.
Take care
- KVRAF
- 6244 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
- KVRAF
- 6244 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
just in case,
supermassive i think, tend to focused it reverb side on huge spaces rather than high, unnatural density of black hole, ...or am i wrong ?
supermassive i think, tend to focused it reverb side on huge spaces rather than high, unnatural density of black hole, ...or am i wrong ?
- KVRist
- 395 posts since 6 May, 2020
I think that's a fair assessment.
If people have used Blackhole for a similar effect of what Supermassive goes for, it's definitely a nice alternative that might as well offer more in that area.
For me personally though, Blackhole is more of an artistic/textural tool that can produce very unique results that I haven't seen in other reverbs, at least preset-wise.
If people have used Blackhole for a similar effect of what Supermassive goes for, it's definitely a nice alternative that might as well offer more in that area.
For me personally though, Blackhole is more of an artistic/textural tool that can produce very unique results that I haven't seen in other reverbs, at least preset-wise.
Take care
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- KVRAF
- 6826 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france
Interesting, as i feel quite the opposite : I enjoy Blackhole, but i find nothing that much special about it, and so far i didn't find anything i couldn't achieve with other reverbs (for instane, Eareverb2 or several others).consordini wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:13 amFor me personally though, Blackhole is more of an artistic/textural tool that can produce very unique results that I haven't seen in other reverbs, at least preset-wise.
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- KVRist
- 37 posts since 25 Jun, 2020
One of the best reverbs out there IMHO
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- KVRAF
- 35410 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I agree. Like the other Eventide plugins which are algorithms of their hardware thingies (I always forget which one that is ), it's kind of a one trick pony, but, for what it does (spacey, unreal stuff), there's hardly anything better.