Does anyone use Xfer Cthulhu?

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KVRian
703 posts since 19 Mar, 2014 from Denver, CO

Post Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:05 pm

realmarco wrote:
ImNotDedYet wrote:I love Cthulhu, but only use it as one of the most functional arps out there. I've never used the chord generator - I prefer to play around with my own chord progressions and voicings.
U should really checkout the bach coral, fastest way to do some Daft-punk-ish stuff
I know the chord generation stuff is actually very good, but I'm not looking for Daft-punk-ish stuff, and I enjoy the hell out of coming up with my own chords, then voicings of those chords. :)

For others, I think the chord stuff would be a godsend and a big help in getting inspiration.

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KVRian
928 posts since 6 Jun, 2003 from Reading UK. (U rrrrrrs)

Post Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:19 am

Love recording the MIDI out from Cthulhu into my DAW (Reaper) :party: Can't find any mention of this in the Cthulhu guide but do an internet search and you will find info.
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22470 posts since 5 Sep, 2001

Post Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:41 am

how does this compare to cubase chord track in terms of intelligent auto progression?

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KVRAF
1647 posts since 12 Dec, 2012 from Switzerland

Post Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:09 am

dave dove wrote:
Knowing a bit about music theory helps when using stuff like this too.
why?

dave
Because you don't have to do too many trial and errors then. Especially when you use the presets with keys and would like to switch to another key in a song ;)

But nevertheless, if you take your time to find the right chords, it's an absolutely great tool. Love it!
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KVRian
1157 posts since 9 Mar, 2008 from netherlands

Post Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:41 am

This is a fantastically inspirational tool :tu: Like most things the innovation comes with how one abtracts it's initial purpose. Oblique Strategies I believe Eno once said. You can create your own chord templates or abuse the existing ones... Amongst other things I've done with some of the existing chord sets are some fake jazz stuff as well as poppy electro. It's been great for freeing my mind as I get trapped in my own sense of harmony and having a load of different chords mapped across the keyboard and not knowing what they are allows me to surprise myself.
All those who say learn theory are missing the point - as far as I'm concerned - cos the end result is more important than how you get there and to be honest most of the theoretically adept musicians I know aren't that innovative as they tend to inherently follow the rules... fields that have beem plowed a million times. My 2 cents
Haven't touched the arpeggiator yet though.

KVRer
12 posts since 19 Feb, 2014

Post Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:59 am

Hi gents,
I'm using Cubase 7 and there's no way I can connect Cthulhu with any VSTi : I do not seem to find in the Inspector the relevent ins and outs.
What exactly am I supposed to find or do to connect these 2 in Cubase ?
Thanx for any help !

KVRist
455 posts since 16 May, 2012 from Antwerp

Post Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:39 am

I never used CuBase7 but in 8 and 9 it works as follows:

1/ one instrument track, Cthulhu and routed: in - keyboard / out - cthulhu
2/ one instrument track, your instrument and routed: in - cthulhu / out - instrument
3/ activate both tracks
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KVRAF
3257 posts since 2 Jul, 2005

Post Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:39 am

I use it regularly. It's handy as can be.

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KVRAF
32505 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:41 am

Is there a Logic MFX version?

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KVRist
74 posts since 14 Jul, 2013

Post Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:06 am

yes. as was already answered in a previous post...

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697 posts since 29 Oct, 2016

Post Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:10 pm

Cthulhu is the best arp, pattern generator, chord shortcut, all in one... also try automating the pattern selector with LFO modulation.. that's always fun. Another trip is to use the Hz mode.. you can then modulate the arp speed in Hz upwards, the arp that speeds up while the chord progression stays in time.

Also grab AD Axon while you are there, wonderful pattern generator. Set your DAW tempo to 128 bpm, and 96 bpm on Axon vst internally, and then you can set it to relative whole number relationships, and watch it come alive in new ways. 128 - (128 / 4) = 96, or 128 + 32 = 160, etc.

You're welcome. :)
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KVRer
12 posts since 19 Feb, 2014

Post Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:36 pm

ErikH wrote:I never used CuBase7 but in 8 and 9 it works as follows:

1/ one instrument track, Cthulhu and routed: in - keyboard / out - cthulhu
2/ one instrument track, your instrument and routed: in - cthulhu / out - instrument
3/ activate both tracks
Thanx ErikH (my 1st name's too Erik btw :wink: ) I'll try that but I'm not very confident.May be i'm looking at the wrong place, I mean for the routing. (Oh, and there's no track activation in the 7 but it doesn't matter)

KVRist
455 posts since 16 May, 2012 from Antwerp

Post Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:30 am

I was perhaps a bit short...
What you do is tell Cubase to send the keyboard input to Cthulhu and send Cthulhu's output (for example its arpeggios) to your chosen vst input instead of said vst getting its data from your keyboard.

1/ New Track > Instrument Track > Cthulhu
At the left-hand side, in the Inspector you see a number of settings, amongst which 2 icons with an arrow. These indicate In: all Midi inputs, and Out: Cthulhu

I personally prefer toset Midi In to my keyboard (dropdown list)

2/ add a second track:

New Track > Instrument Track > YourChosenVST, and give it a sound you like or use a preset. Test its sound.
Here, initially, the input and outputs are the same as above. What you do is tell Cubase to get its input here from Cthulhu. You can select Cthulhu Midi Out from the dropdown list. The output is YourChosenVST.

3/ Use shift-click to activate both tracks . Both are now highlighted.
Make shure both are Monitored so you can hear something.

In Cthulhu, aside the letters going up to L (if I remember correctly) you can chose an arpeggio. Chose one and press a not on your keyboard. You should get your chosen VST with your chosen sound playing arpeggios.

Don't hesitate to ask if something is still badly explained. I am not a teacher/specialist.

Good luck, Erik!
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KVRAF
16257 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away

Post Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:54 am

aMUSEd wrote:Is there a Logic MFX version?
Yes! Just trying the demo :tu:

KVRAF
15159 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Post Mon May 07, 2018 2:40 pm

Would somebody be kind enough to email me the manual?

It’s only available to registered users which is insane. How can I demo properly if I don’t know what I’m doing. It’s impossible to work anything out in the ridiculous 20min demo window.
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