Zynaptiq Pitchmap?
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2356 posts since 3 Mar, 2010
Hi Everyone,
I see this is on sale until March 31st. Does anyone have experience using this? How does it compare to Melodyne (other than being significantly less expensive at the moment)? I would like to primarily use this to extract vocals from mixed audio to make my own cover versions (for home use only) - can this be done successfully with Pitchmap? I plan to try the demo, of course, but I was wondering what the experience of others has been.
Thanks in advance for your opinions.
I see this is on sale until March 31st. Does anyone have experience using this? How does it compare to Melodyne (other than being significantly less expensive at the moment)? I would like to primarily use this to extract vocals from mixed audio to make my own cover versions (for home use only) - can this be done successfully with Pitchmap? I plan to try the demo, of course, but I was wondering what the experience of others has been.
Thanks in advance for your opinions.
- KVRAF
- 35295 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Also interested in this but primarily more as a sound design tool.
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- KVRAF
- 16151 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
I tried to find audio demos for it to no avail, I have a demo copy here now and will test it asap.
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- KVRAF
- 5810 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
1. The few Pitchmap videos I saw did not seem to me that the results were all that musical.
Maybe I just did not see the right video.
2. I would be more interested if the variations were much more different than the original.
Perhaps another plugin does this better?
My interest is to see what I can do in the ambient genre.
What can Pitchmap do with symphonic music.
If I can get beyond these two points I would buy at the sale price!
Maybe I just did not see the right video.
2. I would be more interested if the variations were much more different than the original.
Perhaps another plugin does this better?
My interest is to see what I can do in the ambient genre.
What can Pitchmap do with symphonic music.
If I can get beyond these two points I would buy at the sale price!
My Studio: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=7777146#p7777146
- KVRAF
- 9800 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
On the JRR Shop product page for Pitchmap, the following is listed (and I believe this is copied from Zynaptiq).
I'm also very curious how this could be used for sound design.
It also seems like this would be great for composing as you could easily create key changes on the fly as a way to hear how different things work before actually making the changes. To me this seems to be the strength of the plugin vs any sound design use.
***edited to change chord changes to key changes***
I watched the videos too and it looks like this does a great job of ignoring atonal sounds (if directed??) and then changing harmonic content on the fly.How PITCHMAP Is Different
So how does PITCHMAP compare to other pitch processing products, like Celemony's Melodyne Editor or Antares' Auto Tune? In a nut-shell: it doesn't. They have different applications and strengths, and complement each other nicely. In simplified words:
If you need to tune a solo vocal take or other monophonic instrument, use Auto Tune.
If you need to fine-tune or manipulate a single but polyphonic instrument, or a section of instruments, and using off-line editing doesn't break your workflow, use Melodyne.
If you need to tune or change the pitches of a full mix or other complex polyphonic signal in real-time and under MIDI control, while retaining all the transient crispness of any percussive elements, or if you want to create far-out sounds, or if you want to try out different harmonies on your loops and recordings from within the creative, musical workflow....use PITCHMAP.
Depending on your field of work, you may want to have all three of them. So grab a copy of PITCHMAP and complete your pitch processing toolkit!
I'm also very curious how this could be used for sound design.
It also seems like this would be great for composing as you could easily create key changes on the fly as a way to hear how different things work before actually making the changes. To me this seems to be the strength of the plugin vs any sound design use.
***edited to change chord changes to key changes***
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- KVRAF
- 16151 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
It's pretty cool, here is a first experiment using one of my Iris scapes, basically one can create any tonality out of any other tonality at a high sound quality, various degrees of purity are possible, one can filter out/mute pitches from the original source, and then there is all the Midi stuff which I haven't checked yet. It's definitely a CPU monster but that was to be expected as we have a sort of Melodyne in real time, Melodyne 4 offers many more ways to treat/alter the harmonic structure and formants though, but it's not real time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3SJM-1iVQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3SJM-1iVQ
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- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 5 Oct, 2003
Your videos are SO helpful. Thank you for them!Sampleconstruct wrote:It's pretty cool, here is a first experiment using one of my Iris scapes, basically one can create any tonality out of any other tonality at a high sound quality, various degrees of purity are possible, one can filter out/mute pitches from the original source, and then there is all the Midi stuff which I haven't checked yet. It's definitely a CPU monster but that was to be expected as we have a sort of Melodyne in real time, Melodyne 4 offers many more ways to treat/alter the harmonic structure and formants though, but it's not real time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3SJM-1iVQ
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- KVRAF
- 16151 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
Wow - this is an orchestral backstage warmup I field-recorded before a concert, it's amazing what tonal textures one can coax out of anything really, I think I'll have to buy this...yes, most definitely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf-IDFsFzaI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf-IDFsFzaI
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2356 posts since 3 Mar, 2010
Thanks, Simon! Would you be able to try a brief vocal extraction from a mixed audio source? Just curious how that would sound in your hands . . . .Sampleconstruct wrote:It's pretty cool, here is a first experiment using one of my Iris scapes, basically one can create any tonality out of any other tonality at a high sound quality, various degrees of purity are possible, one can filter out/mute pitches from the original source, and then there is all the Midi stuff which I haven't checked yet. It's definitely a CPU monster but that was to be expected as we have a sort of Melodyne in real time, Melodyne 4 offers many more ways to treat/alter the harmonic structure and formants though, but it's not real time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3SJM-1iVQ
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- KVRAF
- 16151 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
Just trying it on the live-recording of an aria, orchestra and soprano voice and the results are pretty meh I must say, but I'll experiment more...bharris22 wrote:Thanks, Simon! Would you be able to try a brief vocal extraction from a mixed audio source? Just curious how that would sound in your hands . . . .Sampleconstruct wrote:It's pretty cool, here is a first experiment using one of my Iris scapes, basically one can create any tonality out of any other tonality at a high sound quality, various degrees of purity are possible, one can filter out/mute pitches from the original source, and then there is all the Midi stuff which I haven't checked yet. It's definitely a CPU monster but that was to be expected as we have a sort of Melodyne in real time, Melodyne 4 offers many more ways to treat/alter the harmonic structure and formants though, but it's not real time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3SJM-1iVQ
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- KVRAF
- 16151 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
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- KVRAF
- 16151 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
Well, nothing I would use on classical music for realistic results, but that's not the point here, Pitchmap sounds rather/pretty/very nice in many scenarios and offers huge audio mangling possibilities for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4tpxgU7GrQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4tpxgU7GrQ
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- KVRAF
- 5810 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
Simon thanks for the videos!
Opera? Loved it!
I am slowly changing my mind about Pitchmap.
Mangling is what I like about it but mangling in a pleasant musical way.
Opera? Loved it!
I am slowly changing my mind about Pitchmap.
Mangling is what I like about it but mangling in a pleasant musical way.
My Studio: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=7777146#p7777146