Cytomic "The Scream" stomp box distortion plugin

[mholloway]

May I politely inquire as to why this plugin has been in "PUBLIC BETA" since January 2017 ?

[Havok]

May I politely inquire as to why this plugin has been in "PUBLIC BETA" since January 2017 ?

Just read back through the thread, its been addressed numerous times

[Dalle]

A really cool effect of the component modelling in The Scream: Some settings cause it to produce sound without input. Glitchy garbled high frequency sine waves, rough tones and noise. It’s like a little harsh noise synth!

[andy-cytomic]

A really cool effect of the component modelling in The Scream: Some settings cause it to produce sound without input. Glitchy garbled high frequency sine waves, rough tones and noise. It’s like a little harsh noise synth!

Thanks I noticed this little "chirp" when using the hardware pedal clicking the bypass button. There is a feedback loop created by the bypass circuit which, with enough drive, makes the pedal into a self oscillating resonant filter. This is the only tube screamer emulation I know of that reproduces this properly.

[TCF805]

Where are the presets? I can't find them. The only one is the default.

All I've found is a broken link and no customer support contact.

[dayjob]

Where are the presets? I can't find them. The only one is the default.

All I've found is a broken link and no customer support contact.

customer support email is on the homepage

Welcome to Cytomic's new web page!
The old web page was getting difficult to maintain so we've moved over to a new one. If you run into any trouble with you account or licenses please send an email to support@cytomic.com and we'll sort it out as quickly as possible.

i don't recall the scream having presets yet. it's still beta. i don't think it has presets upon install? does it? idk. shrug. it's only 3 knobs and some component settings under the hood. begs to be experimented with. perhaps on final release it'll have presets?

[TCF805]

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Thanks! I was looking for a contact form and didn't see the email address. Totally overlooked it even thought it was obvious.

The presets I referred to were SUPPOSED to be here: https://cytomic.com/files/scream-beta-presets-2.zip (https://cytomic.com/files/scream-beta-presets-2.zip)

[dayjob]

Thanks! I was looking for a contact form and didn't see the email address. Totally overlooked it even thought it was obvious.

The presets I referred to were SUPPOSED to be here: https://cytomic.com/files/scream-beta-presets-2.zip

oh. wasn't aware of those! i wonder if the link got busted when they made a new website?

[Tendou]

where to put those presets?

[farfadetfarfelu]

Thanks, the presets link works, i had lost those presets.

[farfadetfarfelu]

Since there's been talk about "finishing the scream", i spent some time with it today, digging out an old feedback preset.
And wow, it works way better with lower Voltage !

I'm sharing a preset that can be used as a starting point since there are probably infinite variations.
With a Cab Sim or a 5khz LoPass filter behind it, The preset seems to work well in x1 oversampling, whereas some more extreme settings really make it click and jump on the feedback.

The goal is to have interaction between the oscillator squeal and the guitar sound.

The controls are somewhat interactive but from what i can figure :
The Drive acts like a balance between guitar and feedback (synth/oscillator like squeal)
The input gain will give more drive for the distorted guitar sound
The Tone and Volume controls the feedback intensity/auto-oscillation
The bias controls the frequency of the oscillation

The only problem is the clean signals seems to be always present behind.

Andy, would it be possible to include some sort of Delta Solo button (difference between dry and wet signal ), where the output polarity would be inverted so that it cancels out the clean from the output ?

Preset link (calibrated for approx -18db peak signal input):
http://thebin.free.fr/KVR/FeedBackREDBias35.tsp

[greententacle]

yes, i noticed the auto-scream too, its nice!
andy, what will 1.0 look like?

[andy-cytomic]

Since there's been talk about "finishing the scream", i spent some time with it today, digging out an old feedback preset.
And wow, it works way better with lower Voltage !

I'm sharing a preset that can be used as a starting point since there are probably infinite variations.
With a Cab Sim or a 5khz LoPass filter behind it, The preset seems to work well in x1 oversampling, whereas some more extreme settings really make it click and jump on the feedback.

The goal is to have interaction between the oscillator squeal and the guitar sound.

The controls are somewhat interactive but from what i can figure :
The Drive acts like a balance between guitar and feedback (synth/oscillator like squeal)
The input gain will give more drive for the distorted guitar sound
The Tone and Volume controls the feedback intensity/auto-oscillation
The bias controls the frequency of the oscillation

The only problem is the clean signals seems to be always present behind.

Andy, would it be possible to include some sort of Delta Solo button (difference between dry and wet signal ), where the output polarity would be inverted so that it cancels out the clean from the output ?

Preset link (calibrated for approx -18db peak signal input):
http://thebin.free.fr/KVR/FeedBackREDBias35.tsp

The structure of the Tube Screamer circuit means the "dry" signal is always added to the driven signal, this is baked into the design and can't really be altered. You may want to try disabling the main drive diodes, and instead use the diodes built into the output of the opamp to drive the signal, as this clipping will be applied to both the dry input (positive) and wet input (negative) of the opamp.

The situation is roughly like this:

output = opampclip(input + diodeclip(filter(input*gain)))

so if you remove the main drive diodes you get:

output = opampclip(input + filter(input*gain))

[andy-cytomic]

News: the final release of The Scream will be ready in around 6 weeks now. I'm fine tuning the undo / redo system right now, and will update the "easy" edit page to the new style and that's development done. Then it's onto the manual and presets, and audio demos etc, of which will be done as quickly as possible to get the release out so everyone can use it, and then improved upon over the subsequent month or so.

I've put together a quick video so everyone can see how the randomisation panel works. It's a variation explorer with a set of dots to indicate changes than can be previewed and recalled (and undo / redo bar). It allows for drastic or subtle changes, and once a random set of values in generated you can fine tune the depth these numbers are applied to the circuit in both mono and stereo. The source audio is a mono 303 baseline courtesy of the people at https://www.acidvoice.com

https://cytomic.com/files/forums/scream ... demo-1.mkv
https://cytomic.com/files/forums/scream ... demo-1.mp4 (video file as well)

[dayjob]

News: the final release of The Scream will be ready in around 6 weeks now. I'm fine tuning the undo / redo system right now, and will update the "easy" edit page to the new style and that's development done. Then it's onto the manual and presets, and audio demos etc, of which will be done as quickly as possible to get the release out so everyone can use it, and then improved upon over the subsequent month or so.

I've put together a quick video so everyone can see how the randomisation panel works. It's a variation explorer with a set of dots to indicate changes than can be previewed and recalled (and undo / redo bar). It allows for drastic or subtle changes, and once a random set of values in generated you can fine tune the depth these numbers are applied to the circuit in both mono and stereo. The source audio is a mono 303 baseline courtesy of the people at https://www.acidvoice.com

https://cytomic.com/files/forums/scream ... demo-1.mkv
https://cytomic.com/files/forums/scream ... demo-1.mp4 (video file as well)

wow. that looks great. i love random/mutate functions in plug ins that work that way.. the mutate feature in Absynth is one of my fav things for generating similar but different patches of an existing patch.