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ENV1 · Post by **ENV1** » Mon May 08, 2017 4:19 pm

Distorted Horizon wrote:Blackhole bought ^^

Thread title adapted to cover this weeks deal.

This Week: Blackhole

Coming up:
Week 3: Tverb $97 (MSRP $249)
Week 4: 2016 Stereo Room $47 (MSRP $199)

Musicisbest · Post by **Musicisbest** » Mon May 08, 2017 4:47 pm

An interesting example of Blackhole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORCDHkfafZI

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Mon May 08, 2017 8:02 pm

How would you compare Blackhole with Wormhole (Zynaptiq)? What should I get?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon May 08, 2017 8:26 pm

Seems like Blackhole is rather a reverb effect, while Wormhole is rather a pitch shifting effect? Looks very cool though, definitely something i will keep an eye on. Wonder if they make sales, because, 199 € is quite hefty.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Mon May 08, 2017 8:33 pm

chk071 wrote:Seems like Blackhole is rather a reverb effect, while Wormhole is rather a pitch shifting effect? Looks very cool though, definitely something i will keep an eye on. Wonder if they make sales, because, 199 € is quite hefty.

Zynaptiq does not do sales very often. Blackhole has been on sale for that price at least three times in the last two years or so.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon May 08, 2017 8:36 pm

Yep, i grabbed it for 50 € also some time ago too. Shame Zynaptic don't do sales so often. Wormhole looks really interesting.

Pazzior · Post by **Pazzior** » Mon May 08, 2017 8:40 pm

I was literally flashed by the sound of the Eventide Desktop/Pedal-Reverb Space in this 3-year old video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6ZI3bgu3pk) transferring the sound of the SH-101 unreal from here to then and back. Anyone any idea if Blackhole could do this, too?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon May 08, 2017 8:45 pm

Definitely. It even shows the Blackhole preset (or algorithm), which Blackhole was modelled on.

Pazzior · Post by **Pazzior** » Mon May 08, 2017 9:23 pm

chk071 wrote:Definitely. It even shows the Blackhole preset (or algorithm), which Blackhole was modelled on.

Thank you; you are right, chk071. Nevertheless I still wonder, why in terms of price why there is so a remarkable gap between hardware and software if vst plugins -also in regard to instruments- can be so close/similar in sound to hardware..

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Mon May 08, 2017 10:46 pm

Pazzior wrote:
chk071 wrote:Definitely. It even shows the Blackhole preset (or algorithm), which Blackhole was modelled on.
Thank you; you are right, chk071. Nevertheless I still wonder, why in terms of price why there is so a remarkable gap between hardware and software if vst plugins -also in regard to instruments- can be so close/similar in sound to hardware..

Hardware DSP has to include the cost of a tiny computer. And a metal box. And knobs and LEDS and footswitches and power supplies and all that stuff. And the cost of getting things tested for FCC compliance. And shipping. And selling through a 3rd party retailer that will want to make a profit on things.

Fleer · Post by **Fleer** » Tue May 09, 2017 3:22 am

martinjuenke wrote:How would you compare Blackhole with Wormhole (Zynaptiq)? What should I get?

Wormhole can do so much more as a creative effect. But if you want Blackhole style reverbs and beyond, have a look at Zynaptiq's Adaptiverb.

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Tue May 09, 2017 6:03 am

Fleer wrote:
martinjuenke wrote:How would you compare Blackhole with Wormhole (Zynaptiq)? What should I get?
Wormhole can do so much more as a creative effect. But if you want Blackhole style reverbs and beyond, have a look at Zynaptiq's Adaptiverb.

Thanx, I'll do that, looks promising!

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:01 am

Ultra reverb is pure gold to drums. And holy shit what magic blackhole does to everything else! My songs just got a bump to level in ambience and.. Not sure what I'm writing but you can believe that I'm excited as hell

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:03 am

valhallasound wrote:
Pazzior wrote:
chk071 wrote:Definitely. It even shows the Blackhole preset (or algorithm), which Blackhole was modelled on.
Thank you; you are right, chk071. Nevertheless I still wonder, why in terms of price why there is so a remarkable gap between hardware and software if vst plugins -also in regard to instruments- can be so close/similar in sound to hardware..
Hardware DSP has to include the cost of a tiny computer. And a metal box. And knobs and LEDS and footswitches and power supplies and all that stuff. And the cost of getting things tested for FCC compliance. And shipping. And selling through a 3rd party retailer that will want to make a profit on things.

Speaking of hardware.. When do we see hardware Valhallas?

Everglide · Post by **Everglide** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:19 am

martinjuenke wrote:Have all Valhallas, don't need more reverbs etc...

martinjuenke wrote:How would you compare Blackhole with Wormhole (Zynaptiq)? What should I get?

We are all so fickle

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