If this was my first "big" delay plugin, I´d say $99 might be an ok price. However, I read "...a bit late... many capable contenders..." quite a few times in this thread, and that´s also my main issue.Red_Force wrote: About pricing: we tend to compare to plugin like Replika XT, Timeless 2, Relayer and... good ol' Ohmboyz. This one is €69 and Ohmboyz Infinity, a complete redo, is already vastly better. The other plugins in the list range from €99 to €129 and Ohmboyz Infinity has arguabily the same level of feature right now. Our take is that by the end of early access, Ohmboyz Infinity will compete as Delay King in your hearts. That being said we do listen to your feedback. You can see the (rather theoric) process by which we picked a price but what you guys think on the first glance matters. Would you pay €99 for Ohmboyz Infinity if you were confident you'll get on of the best delay ever for that price, or is €99 too much for a delay no matter what?
I do own Relayer, Late Replies, Replika XT, Echoboy, Timeless, Dubstation, umm... all in all, about 15 delays. And I guess I´m not alone with that.
If you want to tempt people like me to buy yet another delay, why not offer some "we´ll win you over special crossgrade from competitors´ products"-price.... For every 3rd party paid delay plugin one owns, 5% discount (with a maximum of 40%)?
You´ve got a good track record from the past, and I won´t suspect you take the money of maybe 4-500 preorders to retire on the Bahamas (that money wouldn´t get you very farRed_Force wrote: About Early AccessWe OTOH are an 18 yo company with a good track records here. Now we agree there has been some abuse on the system and that's why we announce we want to wrap the released version on a sensible timespan (Q4 2018). Still, the idea of an open beta has a lot of appeal to us. There's the feedback but also the funding. We can release a product but with more early funding we can make a better product. We think it's a healthy system that benefits everyone: you guys get a better price, we all get a better product, and on our side it's more rewarding
), I´ll trust you to work hard. But what if the thing never delivers what *I* expect it to? Or doesn´t work well on my system? I mean, for example, Ohmicide is a killer distortion, but it regularly crashes my Logic Pro X or spurts out ear-punishing noise (I mean the unintended kind of noise)...... and again, the price comes into play. Would I be willing to gamble 50$ for a product which I haven´t tried and tested (no demo!)? Possibly, because I trust you guys will do your best. Would I be willing to gamble 100$ for that product especially if there´s tons of overlap with other plugins I own, which back then cost roughly the same money or less, but which I could test thoroughly before buying them?
May I say that this quote -to the cautious layman- sounds a bit like "We´ll develop it wholly only when enough pre-orders come in"...? I´m sure you didn´t mean it like that though.Red_Force wrote: It's already more a multi fx than just a delay - already a reverb, a loop mangler and with enough funding through early access it will probably go up to being a filter bank as well.
