FabFilter Pro-Q 3

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BeeDog
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155 posts since 31 Jan, 2018

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:40 am

If we disregard the dynamic EQ aspect here, how does this and Crave EQ compare?

Razzia
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163 posts since 21 May, 2016

Re: FabFilter Pro-Q 3 Coming Soon...

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:45 am

DrReacto wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:47 pm
The Melda one also allows you to side chain off another track, as well as poco Dynamic EQ and I believe Waves F6, possibly Sonnox?, however Q3 doesn't do that, you can only view the spectrum of the side-chain input.

Don't forget Neutron 2, which also has a similar feature for visual comparison (seems like it might even have been the inspiration here)


I'm with some of the other guys in here though. I've got a whole catalog of EQs, and at least 3 of them do 80-90 percent of things Pro Q3 does. It looks really nice, but my upgrade price is $90, and IMO they didn't add $90 worth of improvements.

I have several Fabfilter plugins, but when they put out something new lately it almost always ends up on the wrong side of the cost benefit analysis for me. They might be some of the best plugins for what they do, but what they do is mostly just bread and butter stuff that's made a little simpler by great interfaces.

JoaquinAce
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120 posts since 8 Apr, 2018 from SC, USA

Re: FabFilter Pro-Q 3 Coming Soon...

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:48 am

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Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:14 pm
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JoaquinAce
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120 posts since 8 Apr, 2018 from SC, USA

Re: FabFilter Pro-Q 3 Coming Soon...

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:55 am

synth guru wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:11 pm
JoaquinAce wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:53 pm
synth guru wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:55 am
Copying Waves F6 Dynamic EQ and marking it up above $29, seems like a big brainer to me.

Who doesn't need another visually dependent training software, giving your ears less experience and development.

What's next painting by sound?
I don't think Fabfilter cares about anyone's ear development and they shouldn't have to. Its about making a great EQ, which they have. If it comes with a visual aid, what's so bad about that? Its up to the user to train their own ears and learn how to use plugins properly.
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Yeah, but it's already been done and for only $29.
Cool. Using this logic we should all be using free plugins since most has been done for less. I'll even bring your logic up to Waves then.... no one should be paying more than $29 for a plugin since Waves has done it. I certainly would not put Waves F6 not in the same ballpark as Fabfilter Q3 :dog:
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perpetual3
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512 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

Re: FabFilter Pro-Q 3 Coming Soon...

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:52 am

synth guru wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:29 am
perpetual3 wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:34 pm

You’ve got a point man. If dynamic EQ is what you’re after, then there are lots of cheaper options out there. They might not be as pretty or convenient but they are far cheaper.

But it’s like anything else really. Why get a BMW when a VW will do the exact same thing most of the time and almost the exact same thing the rest? And while we’re at, why not just get a Toyota? A Kia?

I know You get what I’m saying. People will pay a premium if they can afford it for performance, comfort, convenience. I know I do.

I’m using TDR Nova GE for dynamic EQ - which I got less than Waves - and I can already understand why Pro-Q 3 is appealing. I’ve got an EDU discount and other discounts on top so I will end up buying it eventually. But for full price. Hell no. If was a pro or made of money? For sure.

Now, we can talk principles till the cows come home. For whatever reason, Pro-Q can demand that price.
Why overpay for things you really don't need?
(1) That’s depends on your understanding of need.

(2) expenditures are not made solely as a function of need. They are also made as a function of want.

Does anybody *need* a dynamic EQ? Can’t you do the same thing using a static EQ and DAW automation?

MogwaiBoy
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3038 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder

Re: FabFilter Pro-Q 3 Coming Soon...

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:56 am

+6db at 16k with Q of 0.4
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Waves EQs, mehhhh!
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mcbpete
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1413 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England

Re: FabFilter Pro-Q 3 Coming Soon...

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:05 am

synth guru wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:01 am
How's the latency, do they claim zero latency and low cpu like Waves? :hihi:
Yes (CPU usage is 0.1% here) and unlike F6, Q3 offers zero latency, natural and linear phase options.
perpetual3 wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:14 am
Well, certainly TDR Nova GE is not zero latency
That's due to the (up to 6) parallel processing EQ bands - Zero latency would introduce phasing artefacts.

perpetual3
KVRian
512 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

Re: FabFilter Pro-Q 3 Coming Soon...

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:25 am

mcbpete wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:05 am
synth guru wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:01 am
How's the latency, do they claim zero latency and low cpu like Waves? :hihi:
Yes (CPU usage is 0.1% here) and unlike F6, Q3 offers zero latency, natural and linear phase options.
perpetual3 wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:14 am
Well, certainly TDR Nova GE is not zero latency
That's due to the (up to 6) parallel processing EQ bands - Zero latency would introduce phasing artefacts.
I’m totally new to dynamic EQ. Been doing it the manual way with automation but pulled the trigger on Nova over BF. I also interested in Pro-Q3 since I get a decent discount with my previous purchase and edu.

Maybe you can link me to source which can help me learn how to beat use Nova and assess whether I truly want Pro-Q?

mcbpete
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1413 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England

Re: FabFilter Pro-Q 3 Coming Soon...

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:30 am


perpetual3
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512 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

Re: FabFilter Pro-Q 3 Coming Soon...

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:06 pm

mcbpete wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:30 am
Dan Worrall [as always] is to the rescue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CHFv4mWQYM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efKabAQQsPQ
You are awesome.

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XComposer
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269 posts since 18 Aug, 2006 from Italy

Re: FabFilter Pro-Q 3 Coming Soon...

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:14 pm

In my case, I'm thinking… Excellent quality, fantastic GUI. Really, no doubt, very impressive. But if I already have MAutoDynamicEQ, Oeksound Soothe and MSpectralDynamics, plus the good DDMF static IIEQ Pro, even with the EDU discount and another small discount for owning another product of them, do I really need FabFilter Pro-Q 3?
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MogwaiBoy
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3038 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder

Re: FabFilter Pro-Q 3 Coming Soon...

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:16 pm

If you're questioning it, then the obvious answer is no you don't need it :) Infact ToneBoosters dynamic EQ will do you fine.

But damn, it's Fabfilter, man. I don't need it either but currently waiting for the "what do you want for your Birthday/Xmas" so I can pounce :D

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Fleer
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4116 posts since 23 Aug, 2014 from Boston/Cambridge

Re: FabFilter Pro-Q 3 Coming Soon...

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:51 pm

Life’s too short to not have this :hyper:

Elektronisch
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2856 posts since 3 Feb, 2010

Re: FabFilter Pro-Q 3 Coming Soon...

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:30 pm

BeeDog wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:40 am
If we disregard the dynamic EQ aspect here, how does this and Crave EQ compare?
Carve EQ takes more CPU, no linear phase option (and i remember correct Kilohearts said there wount be ever), added right side panel makes it visualy more busy, does not have sidechain with other same eq instances, no brickwall filter. Analyzer visualy isnt as smooth if i remember right.

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XComposer
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269 posts since 18 Aug, 2006 from Italy

Re: FabFilter Pro-Q 3 Coming Soon...

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:37 pm

I think he was really meaning "Crave" EQ:

https://cravedsp.com/crave-eq
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