Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns and shall be corrected...

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dwozzle
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1045 posts since 28 Dec, 2012 from Boston area

Post Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:00 am

Ah the ironies. I left my order incomplete when I had a house emergency, went to submit it just now and the voucher is invalid, guess it expired.

Oh well, maybe they'll do the end-of-month recap thing they do sometimes. Not the end of the world in any case.

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plexuss
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2571 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

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Post Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:06 am

dwozzle wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:00 am
Ah the ironies. I left my order incomplete when I had a house emergency, went to submit it just now and the voucher is invalid, guess it expired.

Oh well, maybe they'll do the end-of-month recap thing they do sometimes. Not the end of the world in any case.
and there will be other sales and who knows, the prices might even be lower. :phones:

Caine123
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5516 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

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Post Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:06 am

Only the buyers decide about success. Sadly most companies can do what they want as consumers accept step by step. Just check all the dlc stories.... i guess something will happen with plugins too some time in some way.
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SiliconDeath
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136 posts since 21 Feb, 2017

Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns and shall be corrected...

Post Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:20 pm

I've been trialing some new PA plugin for some time now, but this new policy change might be enough to steer me away from them. This feels very anti-consumer in the long run.

iftango
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113 posts since 14 Sep, 2006 from here and beyond

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Post Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:56 am

They are supposed to revert their policy. It's strange however that until now they have not posted a message about it on their website.

We'll need to keep a close eye on this, just in case they decide to revert the reversion (their current actions point to it being a real possibility).
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plexuss
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2571 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

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Post Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:14 pm

I'll leave this here for future reference. :phones:


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electricthing
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311 posts since 5 Aug, 2011 from Nederland

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Post Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:14 am

Dirk two weeks ago; ...'is a mistake on our end and we will fix this asap'

Two weeks?

We Will We Will Fix This!
We Will We Will Fix This!

come on, sing along guys!
It's christmas time

We Will We Will Fix This!

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sqigls
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3548 posts since 25 Dec, 2004 from Melbourne, Australia

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Post Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:20 am

weirdly enough :roll:

iftango
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113 posts since 14 Sep, 2006 from here and beyond

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Post Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:25 am

Today will mark the 1 month anniversary of Dirk's promiss to overtune the NFR policy. His website still states : "You cannot transfer (...) licenses that were previously transferred to you".
Sad to be loosing money and sad to be under the impression that PA is trying to f..k us over.

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plexuss
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2571 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

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Post Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:43 am

iftango wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:25 am
Today will mark the 1 month anniversary of Dirk's promiss to overtune the NFR policy. His website still states : "You cannot transfer (...) licenses that were previously transferred to you".
Sad to be loosing money and sad to be under the impression that PA is trying to f..k us over.
Agreed. It's a horrible thing. I feel like they knew what they were doing and this was a stall tactic-smokescreen in hopes we'd all just go away. PA went from top-tier to bottom-tier in my books. I encourge people to not buy their plugins because you never know what kind of wool they are going to pull over your eyes in the future. :dog:

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pekbro
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2264 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui

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Post Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:06 am

Seems like someone over there has lost his mind of late. What with this and
trying to control peoples spending with the latest ridiculous voucher promotion.
I bought the louderthanliftoff chopshop directly from LTL. I will be doing that whenever
possible if I happen to be interested in anything. Otherwise, I'll just pass in the future.

Sad that devs like Unfiltered Audio continue to be tied to PA. IMO, with ridiculous
policies like vetoing and delaying updates, ashame they dont just walk away...

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martinjuenke
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2988 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Germany

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Post Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:12 pm

Wondering if Unfiltered Audio guys are happy how their products were sold off during the last weeks. It‘s a pity! Such valuable items so cheaply thrown onto the market...

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iftango
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113 posts since 14 Sep, 2006 from here and beyond

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Post Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:18 pm

Maybe it would be time to remind him publicly of his Facebook promise. I don't have a facebook account so can't do it myself.
I'm curious how we would justify this (lie?) ?

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plexuss
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2571 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

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Post Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:21 pm

iftango wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:18 pm
Maybe it would be time to remind him publicly of his Facebook promise. I don't have a facebook account so can't do it myself.
I'm curious how we would justify this (lie?) ?
I have. Numerous times. My posts are ignored except by the fanboys. I think Dirk lied to us about not knowing about the NFR. Seems like some pretty devious behaviour going on. :dog:

Consider not buying from Plugin Alliance until they clarify their NFR policy and make ammens to their customers by grandfathering all plugins purchased before this debacle as non-NFR in perpetuity. :phones:
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iftango
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113 posts since 14 Sep, 2006 from here and beyond

Re: Plugin Alliance new transfer policy causes concerns and shall be corrected...

Post Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:23 pm

martinjuenke wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:12 pm
Wondering if Unfiltered Audio guys are happy how their products were sold off during the last weeks. It‘s a pity! Such valuable items so cheaply thrown onto the market...
I wonder if their sales went up or down with this marketing action. Because ultimately this is all they care about and it could have led to more sales. Would love to see the numbers.

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