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Cinebient wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:53 pm Simple....Logic´s included arp and Cthulhu sometimes. Otherwise i love some iOS apps as midi controller, sequencer, arp. So much more fun and immediate to use. Even using 4 or more different arps at the same time is more fun on multi-touch (if you just don´t want to trigger them all at the same time in the same way).
Most MIDI FX on desktop are terrible in terms of workflow and GUI and unflexible for live tweaking.
But there are some gems in the Reaktor community like Spiral or Nod-E (or how it´s called).
Glad you mentioned iPad midi apps. I have the iPad/Connetmidi2+ setup.
see my studio shot:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=6718002#p6718002
Perhaps start an iPad Everything and Anything MIDI thread at the Mobile Apps and Hardware forum?

Xotopad work great on my 23" multi-touch monitor.

"4 or more different arps at the same time" in parallel I assume or serial?
I thought of two but four?

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Kalamata Kid wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:25 pm
Cinebient wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:53 pm Simple....Logic´s included arp and Cthulhu sometimes. Otherwise i love some iOS apps as midi controller, sequencer, arp. So much more fun and immediate to use. Even using 4 or more different arps at the same time is more fun on multi-touch (if you just don´t want to trigger them all at the same time in the same way).
Most MIDI FX on desktop are terrible in terms of workflow and GUI and unflexible for live tweaking.
But there are some gems in the Reaktor community like Spiral or Nod-E (or how it´s called).
Glad you mentioned iPad midi apps. I have the iPad/Connetmidi2+ setup.
see my studio shot:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=6718002#p6718002
Perhaps start an iPad Everything and Anything MIDI thread at the Mobile Apps and Hardware forum?

Xotopad work great on my 23" multi-touch monitor.

"4 or more different arps at the same time" in parallel I assume or serial?
I thought of two but four?
Apps like ThumbJam f.e let you use 4 (or even 8 on bigger iPads?) different arps (with a drop feature i miss in many simple arps) where you can control and/or play them all individually (you also can split midi channels of course) and each can have it´s own scale or you can do thing like glissandos manually in 100´s scales of your choice. Then you also can add MPE to it etc.
While i prefer mac and there are some more powerful tools it all feels so dated and old in terms of workflow and sometimes simpler tools with great GUI for live performance is better than a million features hidden in menus and whatever.
Apps like Patterning or Quantum are just more fun to use. In terms of midi control i think iOS devices are so much better to any desktop tool i ever used. And there are coming more advanced tools soon which are for sure more fun and more easy to use as something like Numerology......and way way cheaper as a good side effect as well.
The best "static" arp which i like the most is just the one i got with Logic. It´s really good.
I mean i guess most major DAWs comes with a similar tool these days.

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Tied for first in my world:

Kontakt: Access to both factory MIDI scripts and the endless variety of the same from 3rd-party libraries (Cracklefield, Fingerpick, Arpology, etc.) Easy to use in Live as VST, and in Logic as VST inside BlueCat Patchwork MIDI FX or Bidule.

Reaktor: Already available as an AU MIDI FX, SO many interesting and unique MIDI devices (some all time favs in the User Library: Motion Clusters, Adlais, Rifflab…)

Tied for second:

Xronomorph (standalone, works great with Mac IAC Driver, as does Reaktor—advantage: MIDI output is easily recorded): http://www.dynamictonality.com/xronomorph.htm

DifferentDrummer (IOS): http://technemedia.com/drummer/

Most used Logic MFX: The Arp of course, but also Transposer after whatever else is sending out MIDI, with two Modulators, one with Random LFO pointed at the Transposition slider, and one at the Scales field. AND, also of course, the essential MIDI FX Freeze.

I, too, expect Loomer Architect to change my world:)

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David wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:55 pm Tied for first in my world:

Kontakt: Access to both factory MIDI scripts and the endless variety of the same from 3rd-party libraries (Cracklefield, Fingerpick, Arpology, etc.) Easy to use in Live as VST, and in Logic as VST inside BlueCat Patchwork MIDI FX or Bidule.

Reaktor: Already available as an AU MIDI FX, SO many interesting and unique MIDI devices (some all time favs in the User Library: Motion Clusters, Adlais, Rifflab…)

Tied for second:

Xronomorph (standalone, works great with Mac IAC Driver, as does Reaktor): http://www.dynamictonality.com/xronomorph.htm

DifferentDrummer (IOS): http://technemedia.com/drummer/

Most used Logic MFX: The Arp of course, but also Transposer after whatever else is sending out MIDI, with two Modulators, one with Random LFO pointed at the Transposition slider, and one at the Scales field.

I, too, expect Loomer Architect to change my world:)
Some good recommendations here indeed :tu:
What i miss in AU MIDI FX that i can´t f.e. use the modulator to modulate other midi FX while it works with all FX and instruments automation parameters.

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Cinebient: Not with every MIDI FX, but the Modulator works fine with, f.e. the Logic Arp and the Transposer, as described, and with at least some 3rd party tools—just tested—such as the excellent ones from Dialog Audio (https://dialogaudio.com/plugins.php) and Kirnu Cream…

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David wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:18 pm Cinebient: Not with every MIDI FX, but the Modulator works fine with, f.e. the Logic Arp and the Transposer, as described, and with at least some 3rd party tools—just tested—such as the excellent ones from Dialog Audio (https://dialogaudio.com/plugins.php) and Kirnu Cream…
Uhhh, thank you very much. Funny that i only tried it with some which didn´t work and thought i can´t use the modulator to modulate other midi FX in general.
So i learned something simple after using it for years, lol! :D
Makes it much more powerful now for me as well.
Also funny that i just explored the keyboard mapping for live performance in the Logic arp some time ago while it´s there for years too.
RTFM (read the f**king manual) should be rule number one. :)
Oh and thank´s also for the link to the digitalaudio plug-ins. Just saw them the first time.
I hope they offer a Logic MFX version?
They actually looks very flexible and more important the GUI looks usable as well for me (which is the main thing why i hate Numerology).

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woggle wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:54 am
Kalamata Kid wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:04 am
woggle wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:49 am Riffer https://audiomodern.com/shop/plugins/riffer/ incredibly lightweight and easy to use . Can be used as a standard sequencer. Run through https://frozenplain.com/product/obelisk/ is a gem

(also stochas)
Riffer is on sale for $49 and I have $20 credit so
it will cost me $29. Very tempted especially after
you declared it as a favorite.

I have Obelisk and Stochas but have not tried them
yet. Will get onto midi mode in 2019 after my new
Music PC is built.
riffer into obelisk playing kaivo - this is just a test I made in a few secs to show someone

https://soundcloud.com/greghooper/test-riffer2
I have both Riffer and Obelisk, but never thought about running the former into the latter. What is the benefit of doing this - doesn't Riffer already constrain its output to a selected scale?

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Kalamata Kid wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:25 pm
Cinebient wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:53 pm Simple....Logic´s included arp and Cthulhu sometimes. Otherwise i love some iOS apps as midi controller, sequencer, arp. So much more fun and immediate to use. Even using 4 or more different arps at the same time is more fun on multi-touch (if you just don´t want to trigger them all at the same time in the same way).
Most MIDI FX on desktop are terrible in terms of workflow and GUI and unflexible for live tweaking.
But there are some gems in the Reaktor community like Spiral or Nod-E (or how it´s called).
Glad you mentioned iPad midi apps. I have the iPad/Connetmidi2+ setup.
see my studio shot:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=6718002#p6718002
Perhaps start an iPad Everything and Anything MIDI thread at the Mobile Apps and Hardware forum?

Xotopad work great on my 23" multi-touch monitor.

"4 or more different arps at the same time" in parallel I assume or serial?
I thought of two but four?
+1 for an iPad MIDI thread. I just rehabilitated an old iPad specifically to run iOS MIDI apps into my modular setup, and would be very interested to learn what is available and recommended.

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David wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:55 pm
I, too, expect Loomer Architect to change my world:)
Thanks to lnikj and you for mentioning Architect.
see thread
viewtopic.php?f=141&t=517104

I may skip Riffer and a few other deals.
Save the funds for Architect.

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GOMP if you can find it ;)
Amazon: why not use an alternative

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Midi Fire is a great tool. Also a modular environment and you can do your own scripts as well.
Looks almost like Architect (not sure).
But it‘s mac and iOS only:
https://audeonic.com/midifire/

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VariKusBrainZ wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:09 pm GOMP if you can find it ;)
http://www.midiplugins.com/Plugin/243

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thecontrolcentre wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:31 pm
VariKusBrainZ wrote: Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:09 pm GOMP if you can find it ;)
http://www.midiplugins.com/Plugin/243
Woah....looks more like a visit at the dentist is more fun.

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I love Thesys but it desperately needs an update and resizable GUI!

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