Now that was an expensive EQ plugin!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
MAAT thEQorange: looks a bit like Melda's free EQ, featurewise about the same.
Price: 990 €!
https://www.kvraudio.com/news/maat-rele ... izer-44230
It must be super transparent. (It actually has a cool feature: listen only to what's been added or subtracted. But still: a thousand bucks for a transparent EQ plugin! Who will ever hear the difference?)
Price: 990 €!
https://www.kvraudio.com/news/maat-rele ... izer-44230
It must be super transparent. (It actually has a cool feature: listen only to what's been added or subtracted. But still: a thousand bucks for a transparent EQ plugin! Who will ever hear the difference?)
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
- KVRAF
- 7624 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA
seems you already got a lot of money anyhow in life ^
my music: http://www.alexcooperusa.com
"It's hard to be humble, when you're as great as I am." Muhammad Ali
"It's hard to be humble, when you're as great as I am." Muhammad Ali
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- KVRAF
- 2626 posts since 8 Sep, 2009
Won't be a sufficient solution unless you combine it with these professional tools: https://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Microp ... o/MPMFSET/
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- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Inverness, Scotland
Check the hilarious Gearslutz thread.
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- KVRian
- 1172 posts since 25 Jan, 2017
dafuqelassi wrote: ↑Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:46 am Won't be a sufficient solution unless you combine it with these professional tools: https://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Microp ... o/MPMFSET/
they look awesome though
and tasty, like candies
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- KVRAF
- 4711 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
It's like that hipster who turned his backyard into a makeshift outdoor restaurant and served microwave dinners at a premium cost to unsuspecting diners who gave him a 5 star average rating on Google and other apps
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- KVRian
- 1090 posts since 24 Jul, 2018
LOL I wanted to make a thread on this last month because of a YTer i'm subscribed too video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df67MLwcAGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df67MLwcAGM
- KVRAF
- 7624 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA
Oh I looked at it now, obviously they are pushing renting the plug for 120 a year.
my music: http://www.alexcooperusa.com
"It's hard to be humble, when you're as great as I am." Muhammad Ali
"It's hard to be humble, when you're as great as I am." Muhammad Ali
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- Banned
- 131 posts since 14 Mar, 2017
Yeah like you said it looks ugly. Anyways keeping it linear phase without echoing or pre-ringing it mathematical impossible. In the kvr description it actually says "reduced pre-echoing" which relativates things again. And to make no-one test it, they use codemeter as copy protection.SparkySpark wrote: ↑Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:11 am MAAT thEQorange: looks a bit like Melda's free EQ, featurewise about the same.
Price: 990 €!
MAAT already disappointed customers big time with their previous plugins & marketing decisions, but this is pure snake oil.
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- Banned
- 334 posts since 11 Jan, 2015
hahahahahahaha on gs
"Dear Mastering and Audio Engineers,
I am Friedemann Tischmeyer, mastering engineer and the founder of MAAT.digital. We at MAAT had a misleading communication and I would like to shed some light on this and excuse for that.
Reissuing the gorgeous Algorithmix tools is one of the many reasons why I founded MAAT. I have used the Algorithmix LP PEQ Orange alongside other Algorithmix tools on a daily basis for more than 15 years. On more than 1000 of my releases, it became an essential tool in my mastering chain. Long before I started MAAT, I searched around on the EQ plug-in market to find a replacement due to the many requests of my students asking for gear recommendations. I couldn’t find an alternative, which is why we went on this long journey to re-issue the Orange EQ in a new look and with new functions to make it even better.
The reason why thEQorange is so special for me is its ability to sound “correct” and natural when I remove resonances and clean up the lower midrange when compared to other EQs.
Suddenly the mix seems to appear lighter and comes out from the loudspeakers with more ease so that it gets ready for subsequent treatments which I do either with the PEQ Red or my analog mastering chain.
However, I always looked on that project from my passionate audiophile user point of view rather than a pure technical or analytic view. I have actually no clue why it is the case that thEQorange sounds different from other surgical LP EQs used for such tasks. I was wondering about it but not asking for the reason as I am no DSP guru anyway. And here comes the accident: Due to a very high workload in my new studio with an 80h working week in a mix with crazy stuff happening in my private life, I didn’t get the opportunity to work with Oliver to prepare the campaign for thEQorange release. Despite it being my responsibility as the CEO of MAAT to approve all information used before release, I simply didn´t find the spare time for this which in turn caused the publication of misleading technical information regarding the pre-ringing behavior of thEQorange. “No pre-ringing” is basically bull****, please excuse us for the release of this wrong information.
My dear colleague Bob Katz asked me to look deeper into this and finally I found some time within the last two weeks to investigate the technical aspects of the EQ design with the help of Dr. Hatje (the DSP programmer) and Dr. Musialik (the DSP algorithm architect). It gave me a full picture of the facts: thEQorange is a forward/backward-based linear-phase EQ and it does have pre-ringing by definition, like every linear-phase equalizer. “Why it sounds to me better than any other linear-phase EQ I tested so far?” I asked the experts. The reason for that might be the chosen method of implementing linear-phase filters, the refined signal windowing, the extreme accuracy of calculations, consideration of psychoacoustics … probably a great combination of all. The development and optimization of details for the Orange algorithm took many months of intensive mathematical simulations, programming, and audio tests.
Both of us, Oliver and I, hate misleading marketing messages which can be found throughout the world of audio too often and - as I love MAAT, and what we do and will continue doing in the future - I promise that such an error will never happen again.
One final thought may be allowed: I purchased the Algorithmix PEQ Orange for crazy sum of €1,200 back in the day and every penny was worth it. The current price of $990 is also at a premium but it´s definitely still worth every penny. As a licensee of the original code, we are bound to royalty agreements and the specialists involved into this project are top scale professionals. A surgical EQ is a tool, mastering engineers spend usually more setup time on than with any other tool in their chain. I am very happy with the outcome, as the new UI makes it faster and easier to set up. Now, thEQorange also saves my time while improving the sound quality. And even if it saves only a few minutes for every song, thEQorange pays for itself pretty fast.
Anyways, thEQorange is a specialized tool for pros who want to make a difference, and despite other companies having devaluated the perception of the value of software, we think that everybody has the freedom of choice to drive a Fiat or a Ferrari or -- to use another metaphor -- every wine drinker has the free choice between Trader Joe’s or a Haut Médoc.
Once again, sorry for creating confusion! And cheers with a good wine
Friedemann Tischmeyer"
"Dear Mastering and Audio Engineers,
I am Friedemann Tischmeyer, mastering engineer and the founder of MAAT.digital. We at MAAT had a misleading communication and I would like to shed some light on this and excuse for that.
Reissuing the gorgeous Algorithmix tools is one of the many reasons why I founded MAAT. I have used the Algorithmix LP PEQ Orange alongside other Algorithmix tools on a daily basis for more than 15 years. On more than 1000 of my releases, it became an essential tool in my mastering chain. Long before I started MAAT, I searched around on the EQ plug-in market to find a replacement due to the many requests of my students asking for gear recommendations. I couldn’t find an alternative, which is why we went on this long journey to re-issue the Orange EQ in a new look and with new functions to make it even better.
The reason why thEQorange is so special for me is its ability to sound “correct” and natural when I remove resonances and clean up the lower midrange when compared to other EQs.
Suddenly the mix seems to appear lighter and comes out from the loudspeakers with more ease so that it gets ready for subsequent treatments which I do either with the PEQ Red or my analog mastering chain.
However, I always looked on that project from my passionate audiophile user point of view rather than a pure technical or analytic view. I have actually no clue why it is the case that thEQorange sounds different from other surgical LP EQs used for such tasks. I was wondering about it but not asking for the reason as I am no DSP guru anyway. And here comes the accident: Due to a very high workload in my new studio with an 80h working week in a mix with crazy stuff happening in my private life, I didn’t get the opportunity to work with Oliver to prepare the campaign for thEQorange release. Despite it being my responsibility as the CEO of MAAT to approve all information used before release, I simply didn´t find the spare time for this which in turn caused the publication of misleading technical information regarding the pre-ringing behavior of thEQorange. “No pre-ringing” is basically bull****, please excuse us for the release of this wrong information.
My dear colleague Bob Katz asked me to look deeper into this and finally I found some time within the last two weeks to investigate the technical aspects of the EQ design with the help of Dr. Hatje (the DSP programmer) and Dr. Musialik (the DSP algorithm architect). It gave me a full picture of the facts: thEQorange is a forward/backward-based linear-phase EQ and it does have pre-ringing by definition, like every linear-phase equalizer. “Why it sounds to me better than any other linear-phase EQ I tested so far?” I asked the experts. The reason for that might be the chosen method of implementing linear-phase filters, the refined signal windowing, the extreme accuracy of calculations, consideration of psychoacoustics … probably a great combination of all. The development and optimization of details for the Orange algorithm took many months of intensive mathematical simulations, programming, and audio tests.
Both of us, Oliver and I, hate misleading marketing messages which can be found throughout the world of audio too often and - as I love MAAT, and what we do and will continue doing in the future - I promise that such an error will never happen again.
One final thought may be allowed: I purchased the Algorithmix PEQ Orange for crazy sum of €1,200 back in the day and every penny was worth it. The current price of $990 is also at a premium but it´s definitely still worth every penny. As a licensee of the original code, we are bound to royalty agreements and the specialists involved into this project are top scale professionals. A surgical EQ is a tool, mastering engineers spend usually more setup time on than with any other tool in their chain. I am very happy with the outcome, as the new UI makes it faster and easier to set up. Now, thEQorange also saves my time while improving the sound quality. And even if it saves only a few minutes for every song, thEQorange pays for itself pretty fast.
Anyways, thEQorange is a specialized tool for pros who want to make a difference, and despite other companies having devaluated the perception of the value of software, we think that everybody has the freedom of choice to drive a Fiat or a Ferrari or -- to use another metaphor -- every wine drinker has the free choice between Trader Joe’s or a Haut Médoc.
Once again, sorry for creating confusion! And cheers with a good wine
Friedemann Tischmeyer"
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- Banned
- 131 posts since 14 Mar, 2017
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 26 Feb, 2018
You are going to need an apt time measuring tool to calculate the time savings you get with the EQ. Sweet deal because of the free shipping:
https://amzn.to/2DjQiSO
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The leader of that EQ project made a post to say that he thinks the plugin sounds really good. Literally said he doesn't know why it sounds so good, since the actual math doesn't support any claim of superiority, but when you come at it not from a "technical or analytic" stand point, but as a "passionate audiophile", then it is possible to justify. Also, the GUI is easy to use in his opinion, so there's that added on top like a freebie. If you think about it you are probably saving money on this deal.
I think he also said that if you don't buy this plugin then you don't know good wine, or something to that effect. I'm certainly convinced. Wouldn't want to give the impression I drink bad wine. Just gotta plan my credit card situation before I click the "buy now" button. Do they accept installments?
- EDIT: yeah, that's the post I read ^
https://amzn.to/2DjQiSO
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The leader of that EQ project made a post to say that he thinks the plugin sounds really good. Literally said he doesn't know why it sounds so good, since the actual math doesn't support any claim of superiority, but when you come at it not from a "technical or analytic" stand point, but as a "passionate audiophile", then it is possible to justify. Also, the GUI is easy to use in his opinion, so there's that added on top like a freebie. If you think about it you are probably saving money on this deal.
I think he also said that if you don't buy this plugin then you don't know good wine, or something to that effect. I'm certainly convinced. Wouldn't want to give the impression I drink bad wine. Just gotta plan my credit card situation before I click the "buy now" button. Do they accept installments?
- EDIT: yeah, that's the post I read ^
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- KVRian
- 963 posts since 29 Sep, 2006
Good Eq, no doubt.SparkySpark wrote: ↑Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:11 am MAAT thEQorange: looks a bit like Melda's free EQ, featurewise about the same.
Price: 990 €!
https://www.kvraudio.com/news/maat-rele ... izer-44230
It must be super transparent. (It actually has a cool feature: listen only to what's been added or subtracted. But still: a thousand bucks for a transparent EQ plugin! Who will ever hear the difference?)
Is it better then the Fabfilter Pro-Q 3.......?
In my opinion, not really.
--After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music.
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