See the post above. You can demo without any hiss by leaving Custom Shop (the application located in your Start Menu on Windows, Applications folder on MacOS/OS X) in the background and staying connected to the internet. Details on how to demo IK products can be found in this FAQ too: https://www.ikmultimedia.com/faq/index.php?id=798Andrew John wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:29 am Hi Peter. May i also suggest that the hiss in the demo be a little less repetitive, that there be a little bit more time before it comes round. It makes demoing these plugins extremely difficult.
Thank you.
IK Multimedia T-racks Tape Machine Collection
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Peter - IK Multimedia Peter - IK Multimedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=217907
- KVRAF
- 7864 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
- KVRAF
- 40243 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
If you close the door so your better half can't see what you're doing, the hissing will stop immediately.
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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- Banned
- 480 posts since 28 Apr, 2017
Yet another ridiculously user unfriendly policy that no other dev requires. It's as if IK have all the customers they need and they're actively trying to make potential customers buy elsewhere.Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:57 pmSee the post above. You can demo without any hiss by leaving Custom Shop (the application located in your Start Menu on Windows, Applications folder on MacOS/OS X) in the background and staying connected to the internet. Details on how to demo IK products can be found in this FAQ too: https://www.ikmultimedia.com/faq/index.php?id=798Andrew John wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:29 am Hi Peter. May i also suggest that the hiss in the demo be a little less repetitive, that there be a little bit more time before it comes round. It makes demoing these plugins extremely difficult.
Thank you.
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11519 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
My biggest beef with IK for years has been they make every little thing unnecessarily complicated. I suspect it's a cultural thing and not really grasping the idea of "customer experience." Some examples:
1. Lack of upgrades (crossgrades for everyone - gee, way to make existing owners of a prior version feel rewarded)
2. Convoluted Jam Point discounts (up to 30% is really <30% rounded to the next lowest whole dollar - I don't blame them for the VAT thing basically eliminating a chunk of the discount, but I'm not in Europe and don't deal with that)
3. Convoluted Gear Credits (let's just call these IK-bucks - my opinion: stay away folks)
4. Max bundles that don't include everything
5. Custom Shop needing to be open to demo - also, two diferent Custom Shops in one
6. Making you install all the T-Racks plugins when you just bought one
7. Not making all my authorized T-Racks plugins appear in Amplitube and vice versa - would make a lot of sense and encourage sales if these could be cross-pollinated into a single eco-system
8. Subsequent sales that far exceed the original intro price discount (sure, you have to be patient but a year or two later you'll get that expensive thing you were eyeballing at a crazy steep discount)
9. Worst of all IMO: selling modules separate from the base package that adds features - effectively charging for features like resizing in T-Racks or the cab room in Amplitube (then eventually making the latter one free)
On that last point, it's their "half-walled garden" approach that drives me nuts. A much better model would be: make any required "base player" free (it's a basically a shell/chainer), charge for modules, and if you need to recoup development costs for things like resizing or improved oversampling, charge an upgrade fee. A simple "pay $40 dollars to upgrade all your T-RacksCS singles to T-Racks5 singles."
The products can be excellent (especially lately - MODO Bass, Leslie, Vari-Mu, Tape), but they get everything else so wrong. Every IK new product thread becomes a game of twenty [thousand] questions because users are so confused about these convoluted policies. Then Peter has to explain the same rules over and over again, deal with the backlash, etc.
1. Lack of upgrades (crossgrades for everyone - gee, way to make existing owners of a prior version feel rewarded)
2. Convoluted Jam Point discounts (up to 30% is really <30% rounded to the next lowest whole dollar - I don't blame them for the VAT thing basically eliminating a chunk of the discount, but I'm not in Europe and don't deal with that)
3. Convoluted Gear Credits (let's just call these IK-bucks - my opinion: stay away folks)
4. Max bundles that don't include everything
5. Custom Shop needing to be open to demo - also, two diferent Custom Shops in one
6. Making you install all the T-Racks plugins when you just bought one
7. Not making all my authorized T-Racks plugins appear in Amplitube and vice versa - would make a lot of sense and encourage sales if these could be cross-pollinated into a single eco-system
8. Subsequent sales that far exceed the original intro price discount (sure, you have to be patient but a year or two later you'll get that expensive thing you were eyeballing at a crazy steep discount)
9. Worst of all IMO: selling modules separate from the base package that adds features - effectively charging for features like resizing in T-Racks or the cab room in Amplitube (then eventually making the latter one free)
On that last point, it's their "half-walled garden" approach that drives me nuts. A much better model would be: make any required "base player" free (it's a basically a shell/chainer), charge for modules, and if you need to recoup development costs for things like resizing or improved oversampling, charge an upgrade fee. A simple "pay $40 dollars to upgrade all your T-RacksCS singles to T-Racks5 singles."
The products can be excellent (especially lately - MODO Bass, Leslie, Vari-Mu, Tape), but they get everything else so wrong. Every IK new product thread becomes a game of twenty [thousand] questions because users are so confused about these convoluted policies. Then Peter has to explain the same rules over and over again, deal with the backlash, etc.
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Peter - IK Multimedia Peter - IK Multimedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=217907
- KVRAF
- 7864 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
Thank you for your input. It is five steps (please visit the FAQ link to see them) with the final step being basically "once the above is completed, you're good to go!" so that's not really even a step and isn't very difficult to do. I will still relay your comments, though, and thank you again for your insight and input.jbarish wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:04 pmYet another ridiculously user unfriendly policy that no other dev requires. It's as if IK have all the customers they need and they're actively trying to make potential customers buy elsewhere.Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:57 pmSee the post above. You can demo without any hiss by leaving Custom Shop (the application located in your Start Menu on Windows, Applications folder on MacOS/OS X) in the background and staying connected to the internet. Details on how to demo IK products can be found in this FAQ too: https://www.ikmultimedia.com/faq/index.php?id=798Andrew John wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:29 am Hi Peter. May i also suggest that the hiss in the demo be a little less repetitive, that there be a little bit more time before it comes round. It makes demoing these plugins extremely difficult.
Thank you.
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waldemarjohann waldemarjohann https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=300783
- KVRist
- 228 posts since 14 Mar, 2013
It is correct that you also need internet connection during the session with T-racks Tape Machine Collection?
Thanks for answer!
Thanks for answer!
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11519 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
IK plugins don't require an internet connection to run. There's an initial authorization process, and I think you can do that from another PC, but after that, no further internet connection is needed.waldemarjohann wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:30 pm It is correct that you also need internet connection during the session with T-racks Tape Machine Collection?
Thanks for answer!
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waldemarjohann waldemarjohann https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=300783
- KVRist
- 228 posts since 14 Mar, 2013
Hello Funkybot's Evil Twin,Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:13 pmIK plugins don't require an internet connection to run. There's an initial authorization process, and I think you can do that from another PC, but after that, no further internet connection is needed.waldemarjohann wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:30 pm It is correct that you also need internet connection during the session with T-racks Tape Machine Collection?
Thanks for answer!
thank you very much for the fast response and answer.
One thing more i forgot to mention. You need also for instance minimum T-RackS 5 to resize Tape Machine Collection?
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11519 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Yes. I understand that to be the case.waldemarjohann wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:33 pm
One thing more i forgot to mention. You need also for instance minimum T-RackS 5 to resize Tape Machine Collection?
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waldemarjohann waldemarjohann https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=300783
- KVRist
- 228 posts since 14 Mar, 2013
Thanks once again!!!Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:43 pmYes. I understand that to be the case.waldemarjohann wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:33 pm
One thing more i forgot to mention. You need also for instance minimum T-RackS 5 to resize Tape Machine Collection?
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- KVRist
- 95 posts since 4 Oct, 2017
I didn't know that, thank you!don1thedon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:22 amHi, Just checking that you know that you can run this without the hiss in demo by running Custom Shop in the background (acts as a temp authorisation)Andrew John wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:29 am Hi Peter. May i also suggest that the hiss in the demo be a little less repetitive, that there be a little bit more time before it comes round. It makes demoing these plugins extremely difficult.
Thank you.
https://www.ikmultimedia.com/faq/index.php?id=798
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- KVRAF
- 9133 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Cross-pollination integrating fundamentals from the entire product lineFunkybot's Evil Twin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:37 pm
6. Making you install all the T-Racks plugins when you just bought one
7. Not making all my authorized T-Racks plugins appear in Amplitube and vice versa - would make a lot of sense and encourage sales if these could be cross-pollinated into a single eco-system
would indeed be great, and integrating A4, T-racks and more, into
a well presented effects panel, would be another win.
There is a minimalist looking linux app that presents
a resizable panel of 10 plugins
selected from among 180 or so that are available.
Each effect has room for 19 controls or choices,
and presets can be saved/loaded for both the individual effect,
and custom collections of 10, made from among the 180.
http://rakarrack.sourceforge.net/
The main panel also has master % of effects, master input/outputs levels,
on/off per effect, reorder or hide effects, randomized effects chooser,
tap tempo, tuner, metronome, popup bank/preset manager with three
panels of 60 effects, and a user bank yada yada. This type of gui
for the many fine IK effects would be extremely useful.
your number 6. issue definitely should be an installer option,
instead of being a smuggling operation
Cheers
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TheSynthScientist TheSynthScientist https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=430816
- KVRist
- 290 posts since 29 Nov, 2018
Been testing, sounds good so far.
A bit noisy when pushed with stock settings.
High CPU for sure.
Still like it....
A bit noisy when pushed with stock settings.
High CPU for sure.
Still like it....
- KVRist
- 282 posts since 24 Aug, 2017
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:37 pm My biggest beef with IK for years has been they make every little thing unnecessarily complicated. I suspect it's a cultural thing and not really grasping the idea of "customer experience." Some examples:
1. Lack of upgrades (crossgrades for everyone - gee, way to make existing owners of a prior version feel rewarded)
2. Convoluted Jam Point discounts (up to 30% is really <30% rounded to the next lowest whole dollar - I don't blame them for the VAT thing basically eliminating a chunk of the discount, but I'm not in Europe and don't deal with that)
3. Convoluted Gear Credits (let's just call these IK-bucks - my opinion: stay away folks)
4. Max bundles that don't include everything
5. Custom Shop needing to be open to demo - also, two diferent Custom Shops in one
6. Making you install all the T-Racks plugins when you just bought one
7. Not making all my authorized T-Racks plugins appear in Amplitube and vice versa - would make a lot of sense and encourage sales if these could be cross-pollinated into a single eco-system
8. Subsequent sales that far exceed the original intro price discount (sure, you have to be patient but a year or two later you'll get that expensive thing you were eyeballing at a crazy steep discount)
9. Worst of all IMO: selling modules separate from the base package that adds features - effectively charging for features like resizing in T-Racks or the cab room in Amplitube (then eventually making the latter one free)
On that last point, it's their "half-walled garden" approach that drives me nuts. A much better model would be: make any required "base player" free (it's a basically a shell/chainer), charge for modules, and if you need to recoup development costs for things like resizing or improved oversampling, charge an upgrade fee. A simple "pay $40 dollars to upgrade all your T-RacksCS singles to T-Racks5 singles."
The products can be excellent (especially lately - MODO Bass, Leslie, Vari-Mu, Tape), but they get everything else so wrong. Every IK new product thread becomes a game of twenty [thousand] questions because users are so confused about these convoluted policies. Then Peter has to explain the same rules over and over again, deal with the backlash, etc.
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^^^ This
Ik multimedia is clearly managed by people who love their products more than their clients (we are right, they are wrong). These points have consistently been fed back for years, and any customer oriented company would have listened. The reason we give this feedback is because we hope they will change, not to be negative or complain. I have IK products, but always think twice before buying.
I’m sure there are people working for them who agrees with the points above, and are passionate about making the best possible product for their customers.p though.
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- KVRian
- 838 posts since 27 Nov, 2003 from UK, Polegate
i would say the thing I dislike the most about the IK activation is the 10 activations limit - why ? I can see no reason.