Valhalla Supermassive

[Cinebient]

Call me crazy but i love Supermassive really as delay. It even is at the moment my favorite delay. Yes, it took Replika-XT to Nr.2 and ValhallaDelay to Nr.3 for me.
I would buy a Supermassive Pro for 50 without a doubt.
This is the best free plug-in FX ever for me.
It can do so many stuff with just a few knobs and it all sounds smooth when you automate/modulate it and lives up to the name....it sounds supermassive.

[metalifuxx]

I think of it as an instrument in itslef. It's meant to be heard and add that 2nd layer of floating moving ambience that sits rigtht behind (or in front of) the dry signal. It's just awesome for cleanish guitar based minimal tracks. I like the transient smear it does to sharp percussive sounds and turns them into pad like synth sounds. It can turn a regular dry Rhodes sound into an instant synth ambient machine.

[metalifuxx]

Earth Quaker Devices pedals have flagship delay/reverbs pedals based on that concept.

[Cinebient]

Here a little test with 2 instances on a already not complete dry sound. Each instance has different presets and algos and also a different midi LFO which modulate the feedbacks.
First few seconds Supermassive bypassed, then you will hear it.
https://soundcloud.com/user-790535032/v ... permassive

[SteveWZ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMuOZCh ... e=youtu.be

Here is another example of Valhalla Supermassive using automation.

This time I use syncopated delays and automate several parameters.
Supermassive is very good at remaining musical as we change modulation, feedback, etc.

Great sounding plugin!

[mitchiemasha]

Although I do not use vst3 I wondered myself. Anyway, what could/would be improvements with vst3?

Controller integration, such as Novation Automap... avoids compatibility issues.

In Cubase, if using VST3, Cubase will load either .dll (standard or automapped) depending on what's installed. If using VST2 automapped, but not on current machine, you'll have a missing plugin.

In reverse this also has the advantage of... add Automap to your system, any old projects with VST3 will automatically used the new Automap version, any VST2 will not. To access the controls you'll have to load the new automap.dll of that VST and copy the settings of how you had it.

There may be other ways around this issue but I'm fairly new to controllers.

[Friendly Noise]

This is Supermassive processing Roland V-Synth GT sounds.
http://youtu.be/l-QsejHM0l4

[_leras]

I find it funny that it's called "Supermassive" and it is quite a similar thing to Eventide's "Black Hole"

Blackhole can't produce delays in that sense, only very diffused ones when “Gravity“ is set to negative values, but VSM is nothing like Blackhole.

Well, VSM kind of has delays, but these also tend to the diffuse/bloomy types, no?

For me VSM seems to produce large shimmery ambiances - which is on the way towards Eventide's Blackhole. Similar aims?

Well, at least that's what I have dialed in while using it so far - huge space creation and shimmer.

[Sampleconstruct]

I find it funny that it's called "Supermassive" and it is quite a similar thing to Eventide's "Black Hole"

Blackhole can't produce delays in that sense, only very diffused ones when “Gravity“ is set to negative values, but VSM is nothing like Blackhole.

Well, VSM kind of has delays, but these also tend to the diffuse/bloomy types, no?

For me VSM seems to produce large shimmery ambiances - which is on the way towards Eventide's Blackhole. Similar aims?

Well, at least that's what I have dialed in while using it so far - huge space creation and shimmer.

Not necessarily, VSM can produce totally conventional straight delays (also tempo-synced) without diffusion and bloomy-ness and it doesn't have a pitch shifter so it doesn't do the shimmer thing, maybe you mean a different type of shimmer. And Blackhole doesn't do the shimmer thing either and can't produce tempo-synced or conventional delays.

[_leras]

Not necessarily, VSM can produce totally conventional straight delays (also tempo-synced) without diffusion and bloomy-ness and it doesn't have a pitch shifter so it doesn't do the shimmer thing, maybe you mean a different type of shimmer. And Blackhole doesn't do the shimmer thing either and can't produce tempo-synced or conventional delays.

I have to admit I haven't tried to use it like a straight delay yet - wasn't sure it would add too much in that capacity. I will give it a try in that direction though.

Oh by shimmer I'm not meaning "like Valhalla Shimmer", but more like can create a shimmering ambient reverby soundwash. At least I used it in a track over the weekend that is where I have tried to take it, with mainly the cenatauri and andromeda big washy reverby algos.

If you dial in a large space in Blackhole I think you get similar. A big grainy thick wash of the original sound that conveys the sound and a large space.

I definitely think it's a really great reverb/delay. Something (along with distortions!) of which, more flavours of is always welcome! In particular it also looks like it will be a lot of fun to play using automation! Seems like there is a huge amount of scope from such few parameters!

[SoundPorn]

Ya kno I wanted to mention this is one of the first things I thought of when VSM was released is that maybe this is Sean's version of Blackhole, a plugin he's been asked to emulate a million times in forums and understands how it works.

While this is not a Blackhole replacement because 90% of these plugins serve different purposes, the remaining 10% share very rare DNA of being able to make epic long real time modulated decays of ambient wash that still to this day very few plugins are able to achieve.

I find it funny that it's called "Supermassive" and it is quite a similar thing to Eventide's "Black Hole"

Blackhole can't produce delays in that sense, only very diffused ones when “Gravity“ is set to negative values, but VSM is nothing like Blackhole.

Well, VSM kind of has delays, but these also tend to the diffuse/bloomy types, no?

For me VSM seems to produce large shimmery ambiances - which is on the way towards Eventide's Blackhole. Similar aims?

Well, at least that's what I have dialed in while using it so far - huge space creation and shimmer.

Not necessarily, VSM can produce totally conventional straight delays (also tempo-synced) without diffusion and bloomy-ness and it doesn't have a pitch shifter so it doesn't do the shimmer thing, maybe you mean a different type of shimmer. And Blackhole doesn't do the shimmer thing either and can't produce tempo-synced or conventional delays.

[SoundPorn]

Ya kno I wanted to mention this is one of the first things I thought of when VSM was released is that maybe this is Sean's version of Blackhole, a plugin he's been asked to emulate a million times in forums and understands how it works.

While this is not a Blackhole replacement because 90% of these plugins serve different purposes, the remaining 10% share very rare DNA of being able to make epic long real time modulated decays of ambient wash that still to this day very few plugins are able to achieve.

::Edit: I also agree with describing Blackhole and VSM as being able to achieve a shimmer type wash. My guess is what I'm trying to describe would be a wobbly chorus modulation in the tail. Not the same as a real pitch shifting reverb or delay but it's still there and subtle

I find it funny that it's called "Supermassive" and it is quite a similar thing to Eventide's "Black Hole"

Blackhole can't produce delays in that sense, only very diffused ones when “Gravity“ is set to negative values, but VSM is nothing like Blackhole.

Well, VSM kind of has delays, but these also tend to the diffuse/bloomy types, no?

For me VSM seems to produce large shimmery ambiances - which is on the way towards Eventide's Blackhole. Similar aims?

Well, at least that's what I have dialed in while using it so far - huge space creation and shimmer.

Not necessarily, VSM can produce totally conventional straight delays (also tempo-synced) without diffusion and bloomy-ness and it doesn't have a pitch shifter so it doesn't do the shimmer thing, maybe you mean a different type of shimmer. And Blackhole doesn't do the shimmer thing either and can't produce tempo-synced or conventional delays.

[ssl4000]

I really appreciate when someone is posting just a quote, so I can read it more than one time, thank you kvr

[Winstontaneous]

I really appreciate when someone is posting just a quote, so I can read it more than one time, thank you kvr.

YOU'RE WELCOME!

[_leras]

Just to add, although my first foray was specifically to use this for creating an ambient washes, I have now delved a bit further into the 'straight' delay side of this and it does seem to have some pretty interesting effect types - should be fun to explore those. I can see it being useful on percussion and synths. I haven't tried with a guitar yet.