Tape simulations for that mastering mojo.

[scalawag]

Somehow i've always liked Nomad Factory Magnetic, but VOS FerricTDS was the king!

[sascha]

Turn down the treble = tape?

Sorry, I was thinking we were talking seriously here. If you've got nothing relevant to add, why provoking?

[Ploki]

Turn down the treble = tape?

not in the slightest

[CircuitEYE]

Hello,

I've been using Slate's VTM for a good while now and I like it.

Slate is good and is more subtle then many of the others.

Personally, I find that using Tape simulations on the master buss degrades the audio more then I like.

Slate might be the exception.

[Scarlet Pumpernickel]

Slate is good and is more subtle then many of the others.

Personally, I find that using Tape simulations on the master buss degrades the audio more then I like.

Slate might be the exception.

I must say, I find this surprising, as I avoid using VTM on the 2bus in most cases because of how much it "eats" high frequency content (as opposed to, say, Softube Tape or even Waves Kramer).

[adl]

If I want Tape sound on the Master i use UAD Ampex or IK Multimedia Tape Machine Collection.

[Ploki]

Hello,

I've been using Slate's VTM for a good while now and I like it.

Slate is good and is more subtle then many of the others.

Personally, I find that using Tape simulations on the master buss degrades the audio more then I like.

Slate might be the exception.

haven't used satin then

[plexuss]

Hello,

I've been using Slate's VTM for a good while now and I like it.

Slate is good and is more subtle then many of the others.

Personally, I find that using Tape simulations on the master buss degrades the audio more then I like.

Slate might be the exception.

haven't used satin then

Or the IK tape emulations. Here's a track mastered using the IK 80. It's the last thing before the limiter:

https://soundcloud.com/musicofplexus/slow-boat-to-hell

[Ploki]

i have trust issues with IK.
i'll demo them to see what all the hype's about
1176 and LA-2A were disappointing

[Michey]

I was thinking the other day about the elusive "sound" of tape and I wander how many people have actually heard REAL tape to the extent they offer their personal choices to others ?

It brings to my mind a scene from "MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE - FALLOUT" where the characters chase an illusive character named John Lark. on one side, there's a CIA team, and on the other - the IMF team led by secretary of defense. so if I were to paraphrase it, it would be something like that :

CIA rep: I have a team of users ready to grab <name-your-tape-emu-here> as soon as it leaves the developer's desktop.

COD [and team IMF] : Spend many hours we don't have to pull a sound we can't trust from a processor we haven't positively identified? No.

We need reliable intelligence, and we need it now.

I tend [and I mean :TEND] to rely [ie. find my reliable intelligence] on people who actually heard real tape vs emu's and make some [allegedly] informed opinion. at least I know they have SOME clue regarding the comparison [and as emu's and algos advance, we're likely to hear the extremely "disappointing" - and baffling - answer : "it's very good and sound extremely close/in the ballpark"].

But if 10 [or 20] processors are "very very close to the original, to the extent one can't tell them apart\we can't decide who's better" - will we actually buy them ?...

Just use the damn thing as a coloring mechanism... we can't assess it otherwise anyways. the "magic" (or - "mojo") happens (or not...) in our head.

I vividly remember Dave Grohl talking about "tape sound" (it was 2011 "Wasting Light") and hailing it as if it was to save the world from hunger. enthused, I rushed buying the disk (I wanted the original) and heard it. after I finished I was like "WTF... he enthused over THAT ??". there was no "magic" that >I< could speak of, no "mojo" and as a whole - nothing that made me feel as if I was on an MDMA cycle for 24 hours. just ANOTHER disc, another sound (and mind you, I - like most here - make music and experience TONS of processors. so I have at least SOME reference).

I was expecting to drool over "wasting light" with a stupid smile on face... but lo' and behold - I WASN'T (Dave Grohl enthused over the sound... but his technician had to bear a LOT of service $hit... and if I recall correctly, it was an EXCRUCIATING experience for him )

Tape (at least in the form of virtual processor) is just ANOTHER tool within our insanely-big-and-ever-expanding toolbox.

[acousticglue]

If the song is good they will come

[Ploki]

I was thinking the other day about the elusive "sound" of tape and I wander how many people have actually heard REAL tape to the extent they offer their personal choices to others ?

friend had a TEAC in studio.
i had a garbage 1/4" RTR in mine that i sold (too much fuss)
i still have a decent cassette deck.

I recently put u-he satin against Studer on mix:analog, and preferred Satin.

[kvaca]

I recently put u-he satin against Studer on mix:analog, and preferred Satin.

I recently put u-he satin against L1 and preferred L1
and yes I know its "only" a limiter...

[kvaca]

I vividly remember Dave Grohl talking about "tape sound" (it was 2011 "Wasting Light") and hailing it as if it was to save the world from hunger. enthused, I rushed buying the disk (I wanted the original) and heard it. after I finished I was like "WTF...

funny thing is that THE ONLY album of FF I still can withstand is Wasting Light...an accident?? /I have heard them all in the past/

[Ploki]

I recently put u-he satin against Studer on mix:analog, and preferred Satin.

I recently put u-he satin against L1 and preferred L1
and yes I know its "only" a limiter...

uh okay.
i put L1 against a fresh Neapolitan style pizza and preffered the pizza.
and yes i know its "only" a pizza