Paragon from NUGEN Audio has arrived
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6980 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Paragon is the new Reverb by NUGEN:
Reverb taken to new heights
Paragon is a true convolution reverb with the flexibility and control of a classic algorithmic reverb, giving you the sound of real spaces, now with unprecedented tweakability. Via re-synthesis, Paragon offers full control of the decay, room size and brightness of reverbs modelled on 3D recordings of real spaces - with no time-stretching, which means no artefacts - not to mention spectral analysis and precise EQ of the Impulse Responses themselves.
Gone are the days of enormous IR libraries. Why have 30 recordings of different-sized churches, when you can meticulously adjust the characteristics of one church?
Perfect for surround applications including Dolby Atmos bed tracks, the reverb operates in up to 7.1.2 channels of audio.
Purity of sound
True convolution reverb
Dolby Atmos and surround-compatible
Individually configurable crosstalk per channel
Unique technology for re-synthesis of authentic IRs
HPF and LPF per channel
Spectral analysis
Switchable LFE
Seamless tweakability
Created with GIMP
The IR library isn’t too big, and it isn’t too small, it’s just right. Gone are the days of keeping an Impulse Response saved for every possible configuration of every possible space - with Paragon, all you need is a select few, which can be tweaked to create almost limitless combinations of spaces.
Using state of the art technology developed alongside the University of York’s Dr. Jez Wells, 3D Impulse Responses are analyzed, decomposed and re-synthesized to create new authentic spaces.
Paragon’s IR panel also allows you to seamlessly tweak the frequency response or real spaces, by EQing the reverb model itself and altering the frequency-dependent decay rate.
Real spaces reimagined
Paragon’s reverb decay and room size can be set significantly longer, larger, shorter and smaller than that of the original IR space, without introducing ugly artefacts as a result of stretching or removing samples. Unlike a traditional convolution reverb, Paragon does not use a static Impulse Response, and this wider scope allows you to transparently transform the sound of the space.
https://nugenaudio.com/paragon/
Reverb taken to new heights
Paragon is a true convolution reverb with the flexibility and control of a classic algorithmic reverb, giving you the sound of real spaces, now with unprecedented tweakability. Via re-synthesis, Paragon offers full control of the decay, room size and brightness of reverbs modelled on 3D recordings of real spaces - with no time-stretching, which means no artefacts - not to mention spectral analysis and precise EQ of the Impulse Responses themselves.
Gone are the days of enormous IR libraries. Why have 30 recordings of different-sized churches, when you can meticulously adjust the characteristics of one church?
Perfect for surround applications including Dolby Atmos bed tracks, the reverb operates in up to 7.1.2 channels of audio.
Purity of sound
True convolution reverb
Dolby Atmos and surround-compatible
Individually configurable crosstalk per channel
Unique technology for re-synthesis of authentic IRs
HPF and LPF per channel
Spectral analysis
Switchable LFE
Seamless tweakability
Created with GIMP
The IR library isn’t too big, and it isn’t too small, it’s just right. Gone are the days of keeping an Impulse Response saved for every possible configuration of every possible space - with Paragon, all you need is a select few, which can be tweaked to create almost limitless combinations of spaces.
Using state of the art technology developed alongside the University of York’s Dr. Jez Wells, 3D Impulse Responses are analyzed, decomposed and re-synthesized to create new authentic spaces.
Paragon’s IR panel also allows you to seamlessly tweak the frequency response or real spaces, by EQing the reverb model itself and altering the frequency-dependent decay rate.
Real spaces reimagined
Paragon’s reverb decay and room size can be set significantly longer, larger, shorter and smaller than that of the original IR space, without introducing ugly artefacts as a result of stretching or removing samples. Unlike a traditional convolution reverb, Paragon does not use a static Impulse Response, and this wider scope allows you to transparently transform the sound of the space.
https://nugenaudio.com/paragon/
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- KVRAF
- 2398 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
$599
- KVRAF
- 10360 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
.. and the competition would be LiquidSonics Reverberate. It too has some advanced controls for completely customizing impulse responses. Probably not at the same level as Paragon though..
99$
EDIT: Actually, LiquidSonics Illusion is probably closer to this as it too synthesizes the reverb stuff.. but again it's different as Illusion doesn't seem to be able to load up normal IR's and then resynthesize them.
99$
EDIT: Actually, LiquidSonics Illusion is probably closer to this as it too synthesizes the reverb stuff.. but again it's different as Illusion doesn't seem to be able to load up normal IR's and then resynthesize them.
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- KVRAF
- 4218 posts since 15 Sep, 2010
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- KVRAF
- 2351 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Berkeley, CA
Well, it's "easier to support 1 GearSlutz snob at $599 vs. 6 KVR slobs at $99"
- KVRAF
- 35294 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
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- KVRian
- 1371 posts since 11 Nov, 2013
I have test the stereo demo of this. I notice it do no GUI scale and look very small on 4 k monitors. It have large latency. studio one show 46.4 ms. way too slow for real time play. choose of mic distance work good on some reverbs. can really give a depth of field after volume correct so original and reverb is same loud
maybe they enhance it to work good on 4 k monitor and less latency. if latency is need not more than 5 ms the reverb should have
maybe they enhance it to work good on 4 k monitor and less latency. if latency is need not more than 5 ms the reverb should have
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- KVRAF
- 2254 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union
After some tests with couple IR and algo reverbs bought stereo version.
Small rooms quality\character is astonishing (yes, together with mention mic distance feature, works interesting).
Latency personally for me it no probs (since do not plan use it outside daw), GUI size absolutely ok too (at 2k).
The only thing that confused me, it's unpredictable L\R offsets after changing some parameters. Though there is manual adjustment of LR (I/O section), but really not very handy to appeal to it after each Decay\Size (etc) changes. In addition, it is not always possible to correct this even thru I/O (for example, we manage to equalize the balance of the reverb itself, but the mono source seems still to be shifted to the left, etc). Hope this is will able to fix without ruin quality.
Small rooms quality\character is astonishing (yes, together with mention mic distance feature, works interesting).
Latency personally for me it no probs (since do not plan use it outside daw), GUI size absolutely ok too (at 2k).
The only thing that confused me, it's unpredictable L\R offsets after changing some parameters. Though there is manual adjustment of LR (I/O section), but really not very handy to appeal to it after each Decay\Size (etc) changes. In addition, it is not always possible to correct this even thru I/O (for example, we manage to equalize the balance of the reverb itself, but the mono source seems still to be shifted to the left, etc). Hope this is will able to fix without ruin quality.
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- KVRAF
- 3959 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).
Indeed... A ridiculous price LOL.
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- KVRAF
- 4218 posts since 15 Sep, 2010
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- KVRian
- 1371 posts since 11 Nov, 2013
I test the stereo version and i notice that stereo inputs(double track guitar) get smaller in stereo width room reverb and shiftet in pan too.c_voltage wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:21 pm The only thing that confused me, it's unpredictable L\R offsets after changing some parameters. Though there is manual adjustment of LR (I/O section), but really not very handy to appeal to it after each Decay\Size (etc) changes. In addition, it is not always possible to correct this even thru I/O (for example, we manage to equalize the balance of the reverb itself, but the mono source seems still to be shifted to the left, etc). Hope this is will able to fix without ruin quality.
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- KVRAF
- 2254 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union
Yes, Paragon definitely have problems with panning (ST at least, i not tested big version).magicmusic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:21 amI test the stereo version and i notice that stereo inputs(double track guitar) get smaller in stereo width room reverb and shiftet in pan too.c_voltage wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:21 pm The only thing that confused me, it's unpredictable L\R offsets after changing some parameters. Though there is manual adjustment of LR (I/O section), but really not very handy to appeal to it after each Decay\Size (etc) changes. In addition, it is not always possible to correct this even thru I/O (for example, we manage to equalize the balance of the reverb itself, but the mono source seems still to be shifted to the left, etc). Hope this is will able to fix without ruin quality.
Also note - "Stereo Width" parameter (exists only in ST version - judging by user manual) being at maximum (200%) make reverb mono-incompatible (ie give stable full antiphase only).
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- KVRAF
- 3959 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).
I will take the Lord's name in vain, whenever I want. Hail Satan! And his little goblins too.
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- KVRian
- 1371 posts since 11 Nov, 2013
maybe they mean that this is only a version that process mono input to stereo reverb output. see the news textc_voltage wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:15 pmYes, Paragon definitely have problems with panning (ST at least, i not tested big version).magicmusic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:21 amI test the stereo version and i notice that stereo inputs(double track guitar) get smaller in stereo width room reverb and shiftet in pan too.c_voltage wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:21 pm The only thing that confused me, it's unpredictable L\R offsets after changing some parameters. Though there is manual adjustment of LR (I/O section), but really not very handy to appeal to it after each Decay\Size (etc) changes. In addition, it is not always possible to correct this even thru I/O (for example, we manage to equalize the balance of the reverb itself, but the mono source seems still to be shifted to the left, etc). Hope this is will able to fix without ruin quality.
Also note - "Stereo Width" parameter (exists only in ST version - judging by user manual) being at maximum (200%) make reverb mono-incompatible (ie give stable full antiphase only).
and to have stereo need buy the big versionNUGEN Audio releases Paragon ST – Mono/Stereo Version of its convolution reverb
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- KVRAF
- 2254 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union
Heh you mean that this is not stereo, but actually mono-to-stereo version ? No, i did check thru Bidule, it has two inputs, and they works ok as LR (audibly).magicmusic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:52 pmmaybe they mean that this is only a version that process mono input to stereo reverb output. see the news textc_voltage wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:15 pmYes, Paragon definitely have problems with panning (ST at least, i not tested big version).magicmusic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:21 amI test the stereo version and i notice that stereo inputs(double track guitar) get smaller in stereo width room reverb and shiftet in pan too.c_voltage wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:21 pm The only thing that confused me, it's unpredictable L\R offsets after changing some parameters. Though there is manual adjustment of LR (I/O section), but really not very handy to appeal to it after each Decay\Size (etc) changes. In addition, it is not always possible to correct this even thru I/O (for example, we manage to equalize the balance of the reverb itself, but the mono source seems still to be shifted to the left, etc). Hope this is will able to fix without ruin quality.
Also note - "Stereo Width" parameter (exists only in ST version - judging by user manual) being at maximum (200%) make reverb mono-incompatible (ie give stable full antiphase only).and to have stereo need buy the big versionNUGEN Audio releases Paragon ST – Mono/Stereo Version of its convolution reverb
Unpredictable behavior in panorama, this cannot be in any case.
Well maybe I could assume that this is an intentional limitation, if the imbalance was permanent. Otherwise no.
Not exclude that this may be the result of incorrect porting from the multichannel version, who know