SILO - spatial reverb from Unfiltered Audio / PA

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KVRian
732 posts since 8 Oct, 2019

Post Tue May 11, 2021 9:12 am

An instant avant-garde-industrializer. I like this more than I thought I would. 29,99 + VAT. Steal.

Just wondering where the typical Unfiltered Audio modulation has gone..

KVRAF
3894 posts since 15 Sep, 2010

Post Tue May 11, 2021 9:26 am

If you have the amazing Portal, not sure if Silo brings anything new though....
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KVRAF
1909 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Post Tue May 11, 2021 9:51 am

gondii wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 9:12 am
An instant avant-garde-industrializer. I like this more than I thought I would. 29,99 + VAT. Steal.

Just wondering where the typical Unfiltered Audio modulation has gone..
i had the same observation; the typical modulation. a pity.
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KVRAF
3894 posts since 15 Sep, 2010

Post Tue May 11, 2021 11:01 am

There must be something I don't fully get here.... Basically, it's just a granulator drowned into a big reverb? :shrug:
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KVRAF
15629 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there

Post Tue May 11, 2021 11:05 am

Neon Breath wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 11:01 am
There must be something I don't fully get here.... Basically, it's just a granulator drowned into a big reverb? :shrug:
I think the most interesting part is the spatializer in between the granulator and the reverb.
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KVRAF
1523 posts since 4 Jul, 2019

Post Tue May 11, 2021 12:25 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 11:05 am
Neon Breath wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 11:01 am
There must be something I don't fully get here.... Basically, it's just a granulator drowned into a big reverb? :shrug:
I thinking the most interesting part is the spatializer in between the granulator and the reverb.
How does the spatializer compare to the one in DUST?

KVRAF
1675 posts since 6 Nov, 2006

Post Tue May 11, 2021 12:33 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 11:05 am
Neon Breath wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 11:01 am
There must be something I don't fully get here.... Basically, it's just a granulator drowned into a big reverb? :shrug:
I think the most interesting part is the spatializer in between the granulator and the reverb.
it's really excellent imo. different and can be equal parts sound design and mixing tool. well done by UA.
and the modulation that can happen w/the different mix modes and "skip" etc is really musical and lively.

KVRian
1371 posts since 1 Jun, 2008

Post Tue May 11, 2021 12:38 pm

I don't find it very musical in its design. There's a lot of twisting parameters and not hearing any effect with this. Also the levels seem totally off. Can barely hear the reverb in one moment and the next it's painfully loud and clipping. Lots of bells and whistles but really hard to control the output I find. The granular engine also seem buggy as it create lots of pops and clicks, not smooth at all. Shame cause I was really hoping PA would finally have a nice creative reverb in their collection.
Also the presets are mostly unusable which is expected from Unfiltered Audio plugins.

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KVRAF
3992 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui

Post Tue May 11, 2021 4:18 pm

Pretty cool in IMHO, I like it :tu:

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KVRAF
30166 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Post Tue May 11, 2021 4:34 pm

Its great. I'm gonna get loads of use out of this creating atmospheric and weird samples. Its three effects in one. The granulator and the spatializer are well cool. :)

@fceramic have you tried increasing the buffer size in the granulator when its clicking?

KVRist
44 posts since 17 Aug, 2012 from United States

Post Tue May 11, 2021 9:11 pm

fceramic wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 12:38 pm
I don't find it very musical in its design. There's a lot of twisting parameters and not hearing any effect with this. Also the levels seem totally off. Can barely hear the reverb in one moment and the next it's painfully loud and clipping. Lots of bells and whistles but really hard to control the output I find. The granular engine also seem buggy as it create lots of pops and clicks, not smooth at all. Shame cause I was really hoping PA would finally have a nice creative reverb in their collection.
Also the presets are mostly unusable which is expected from Unfiltered Audio plugins.
I appreciate the feedback. For the clickiness, there is one bug we just found and fixed that was regrettably introduced very late in the game. Just found out today. If anti-aliasing is enabled in the settings menu and a grain plays over the right side of the buffer it will cause a pop. Try disabling anti-aliasing and see if that gets rid of this clickiness you're describing.

Alternatively, you might be hearing the edges of the windows. They're shaped that way by design but perhaps Hann (type 3) should have been the default. You might switch to that mode and see if it makes it more agreeable. We'll think about changing the default in the update.

Cheers.
Josh, Co-Founder of Unfiltered Audio:
http://www.unfilteredaudio.com

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KVRist
106 posts since 4 Jan, 2007

Post Tue May 11, 2021 11:55 pm

Hipster Ambient Music for Plants :-)

But this is actually a nice video with good examples of how to use Silo.
I like the midi steering of grains part at the end

https://youtu.be/eSQ4guiGOsE

KVRAF
1909 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Post Wed May 12, 2021 12:20 am

Cepheus wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 11:55 pm
Hipster Ambient Music for Plants :-)

But this is actually a nice video with good examples of how to use Silo.
I like the midi steering of grains part at the end

https://youtu.be/eSQ4guiGOsE
nice feature to be able to 'play the grains', but Crusher-x and delta-v audio Spacecraft can also do it, even with MPE... (both FX plugins, but can be used with samples..)

still a nice addition to my granular arsenal, could buy it thanks to a very friendly KVR member, who gave me his $50 voucher (and in return i gave my $25 to some one else.. as i do more..).

so for $36, already dabbled around, great FX, many possibilities, didn't experience the clicks yet, although i used a envelope type, that, o well. great that there are envelope type to choose, enough to get different textures. the mask is also nice, will certainly be a big part.. the spatializer, yes! but the granulator, does it's job.

only worked with it, for an half hour.. so will explore it more..

didn't use any preset yet, why should i? for me it's dialing to the source, but that's me.

EDIT: indeed a pity that the modulation features aren't a part of it. but automation, or in bitwig.. or in a soft modular.. enough other possibilities.

reason? make it more accessible? cpu usage?
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KVRist
181 posts since 4 Feb, 2015

Post Wed May 12, 2021 1:17 am

I'm a big Unfiltered Audio fan and I was excited about trying Silo. So far I like the granular section but really dislike the reverb. The reverb often at times sounds very ugly and blown out. Pairing the granular section with 2caudio B2 is providing better results for me. I'm missing the modulators and it would be a helpful addition if they added even just a few modulators.

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KVRAF
32543 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Wed May 12, 2021 4:41 am

Looks like this should have been named 'Marmite' :)

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