New T-RackS Compressor

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KVRAF
4138 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Thu May 20, 2021 2:23 pm

kmonkey wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 10:19 pm

If you are buying plugins based on someone previous work then well.. you are in for surprise at least when it comes to Fabrice work.

It was revealed just this year that many of the "dynamic" modules inside Slate Virtual Mix (like Slate compressors) rack aren't done by Slate at all. This is common practice in industry and it's called outsourcing. In case you wonder, they were made by Pulsar Audio.

https://pulsar.audio/

In fact if you look few years of Slate releases they are rebranded plugins from other manufacturers.

But the fact that Slate lives on Fabrice "appeal" speaks volumes on Slate marketing.

Note that I am not saying Slate dynamics plugins are inferior or something - just that many of them are not being developed by Fabrice as many people like to think.
i love Pulsar audio. Mu and 1178 are probably my favourite compressors, so is Smasher. Just works ~~fineeee

wonder what else they had made. Do you know which compressors were done by Pulsar? I oughta try that shit.
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KVRAF
2816 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Post Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:22 am

Ploki wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 2:23 pm
kmonkey wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 10:19 pm

If you are buying plugins based on someone previous work then well.. you are in for surprise at least when it comes to Fabrice work.

It was revealed just this year that many of the "dynamic" modules inside Slate Virtual Mix (like Slate compressors) rack aren't done by Slate at all. This is common practice in industry and it's called outsourcing. In case you wonder, they were made by Pulsar Audio.

https://pulsar.audio/

In fact if you look few years of Slate releases they are rebranded plugins from other manufacturers.

But the fact that Slate lives on Fabrice "appeal" speaks volumes on Slate marketing.

Note that I am not saying Slate dynamics plugins are inferior or something - just that many of them are not being developed by Fabrice as many people like to think.
i love Pulsar audio. Mu and 1178 are probably my favourite compressors, so is Smasher. Just works ~~fineeee

wonder what else they had made. Do you know which compressors were done by Pulsar? I oughta try that shit.
They said publicly they did the Slate FG 1176. And they're rumours that they did the Arturia compressor bundle.
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KVRer
8 posts since 15 Apr, 2020

Post Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:45 am

So what's the consensus on this? Better than slate?

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KVRAF
4450 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Post Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:21 am

tigerkong wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:45 am
So what's the consensus on this? Better than slate?
My feeling was that Comprexxor is not a good Distressor emulation based on the testing and listening I did. Further, FG-Stress is on $50 sale. With my Audio Deluxe Bucks I got it for $20. Comprexxor is $70 in my IK account. $70 vs $20 and FG-Stress came out sounding more like Arousor, Deflector, and the Softube emu.

I think Comprexxor has some nice things going for it though that FG-Stress doesn't. But for me I felt I should pick one or the other and for now I choose Stress because of the price mostly. Comprexxor will have to wait which is fine because it will be cheaper and in the meantime I will get use out of Stress.


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KVRAF
7331 posts since 20 Oct, 2009

Post Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:42 am

Does that include the source files run through a hardware unit?
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KVRAF
4450 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Post Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:47 am

Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:42 am
Does that include the source files run through a hardware unit?
No. Only comparing the software emulations. The odd thing about Complexxor is that it was showing the same fain reduction as the other plugins but the output didn't seem to be much different than the input compared to all the others. there was a group of about 3 or 4 that were the most similar. I am not saying its bad, but for me it would require further investigation to find out whats going on and why. Myself, I can wait and also benfit from a lower price. I'm rarely in a rush unless its a no-brainer kind of think with Stress ($20 net cost due to credits).

KVRAF
2092 posts since 12 Nov, 2014

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:05 am

tigerkong wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:45 am
So what's the consensus on this? Better than slate?
I don't own any Slate plugins personally, but my feeling is there is no such thing as "better". The hardware units themselves never sound exactly alike so who can you expect the emulations to. Better is subjective, not just personal opinion but the context in a mix and every mix is unique.

Anything can sound good given the right context.

KVRAF
8582 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:27 am

simon.a.billington wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:05 am
tigerkong wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:45 am
So what's the consensus on this? Better than slate?
I don't own any Slate plugins personally, but my feeling is there is no such thing as "better". The hardware units themselves never sound exactly alike so who can you expect the emulations to. Better is subjective, not just personal opinion but the context in a mix and every mix is unique.

Anything can sound good given the right context.
Distressors are built with modern components and pretty tight tolerances. The pot values may slip a bit so maybe 6 on one is 5.5 on another, but they otherwise shouldn't sound wildly different from unit to unit.

KVRAF
2092 posts since 12 Nov, 2014

Post Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:13 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:27 am
simon.a.billington wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:05 am
tigerkong wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:45 am
So what's the consensus on this? Better than slate?
I don't own any Slate plugins personally, but my feeling is there is no such thing as "better". The hardware units themselves never sound exactly alike so who can you expect the emulations to. Better is subjective, not just personal opinion but the context in a mix and every mix is unique.

Anything can sound good given the right context.
Distressors are built with modern components and pretty tight tolerances. The pot values may slip a bit so maybe 6 on one is 5.5 on another, but they otherwise shouldn't sound wildly different from unit to unit.
Modern tolerances are more tight for sure, but its till not perfect. And when you chain together like 20 or so components those tolerances all accumulate to something more significant.

So yeah, they don't sound exactly the same, especially if you compare a new unit with a well used one. Nothing is identical, unlike plugins. It's not nearly as different as one 1176 is to another, though, or an LA-2A

KVRAF
1729 posts since 2 Jul, 2010

Post Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:22 am

It is absolutely possible to build hardware with modern components that is consistent enough to avoid audible "character differences" between units. Are you basing this claim on experience with hardware Distressor units, or just speculating in order to justify buying more plugins?

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