Plugin Alliance BS vouchers

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jamcat
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Post Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:03 pm

LeVzi wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:19 pm
jamcat wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:17 pm
LeVzi wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:59 pm
I have a few PA plugins because sometimes you need to just bit the bullet to get a good plugin, but I really would rather have avoided PA all together if possible.
I feel that way about Waves.
I'd much rather pay a one-time VAT and get 3 authorizations for life, then have to pay Waves' WUP extortion fees yearly for life so they don't take away my 2nd of only 2 authorizations.

If only a reputable company made a legit Helios emulation, I could get away from Waves forever. I'd jump at a bx_console version in a heartbeat.
Waves have their faults too, the WUP is a joke, and their reauthorising is a joke too, but I am not referring to that. This is about their sale price which is stated as 1 price ,not adding VAT.

I agree that waves need to look at their policies , but they've been pretty reasonable with me tbh when it came to reauthorising. BUt I felt like I was on trial when explaining it.
Waves give their plugins away practically for free with a permanent firesale, because it's really all about trapping you in their WUP scheme. That's where they're making all their money. Plugin Alliance at least doesn't seem to have such a scam going when they have a $29 sale.
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jamcat
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Post Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:11 pm

So, I did notice this at the bottom of the promotional email I got from PA:
* Local VAT taxes may be added, only if required by law in your country. Offers end October 29, 11:59 PM Pacific Standard Time (PST). The offers in this promotion are fixed price offers, no dynamic discounts will be applied. Dynamic discounts apply to non-promotional plugins though!
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Ploki
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Post Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:18 pm

waves vs PA?
How bout waves/pa vs voxengo or fabfilter or u-he or any other decent company without silly marketing schemes.
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flori89
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195 posts since 19 Aug, 2021

Post Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:54 pm

The whole deal how PA prices their plugins is kind of silly isn't it? Put a price on it that nobody will every pay, then run "90% off campaings" around the whole year. It's stupid, but seems to work for them. So what can you do.

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jamcat
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Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:08 am

Ploki wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:18 pm
waves vs PA?
How bout waves/pa vs voxengo or fabfilter or u-he or any other decent company without silly marketing schemes.
I don’t mind PA’s marketing strategy because there’s no catch to it.

Voxengo, Fabfilter, and u-he make totally different types of plugins that appeal to totally different market segments than Plugin Alliance and Waves, so it’s pointless to compare them.

IK, Arturia, and UAD would have been better examples to compare to.
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MogwaiBoy
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Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:18 am

Ploki wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:18 pm
waves vs PA?
How bout waves/pa vs voxengo or fabfilter or u-he or any other decent company without silly marketing schemes.
Agreed. There is only Waves vs PA for the companies themselves - they are clearly in direct competition. For the consumer, they are largely the same... vast product catalogues, incessant emails, astronomical retail prices and manipulative sales (extended! voucher reset!), paid-for endorsements, and so on.

At least PA don't have WUP, though :lol:

Darkstring
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18 posts since 19 Oct, 2020

Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:12 am

Wait what? I use plugs from both u-he, fabfilter, PA and Arturia. How do plugs appeal to different markets? Just curious.

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LeVzi
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Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:22 am

jamcat wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:11 pm
So, I did notice this at the bottom of the promotional email I got from PA:
* Local VAT taxes may be added, only if required by law in your country. Offers end October 29, 11:59 PM Pacific Standard Time (PST). The offers in this promotion are fixed price offers, no dynamic discounts will be applied. Dynamic discounts apply to non-promotional plugins though!
If they put that under the bit where they said the names of the plugins not in the sale, would have solved everything. Its a mile down the page otherwise , who checks that ? (we do, but we were looking for it)
"T!ts McGee"

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vurt
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Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:42 am

LeVzi wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:22 am
jamcat wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:11 pm
So, I did notice this at the bottom of the promotional email I got from PA:
* Local VAT taxes may be added, only if required by law in your country. Offers end October 29, 11:59 PM Pacific Standard Time (PST). The offers in this promotion are fixed price offers, no dynamic discounts will be applied. Dynamic discounts apply to non-promotional plugins though!
If they put that under the bit where they said the names of the plugins not in the sale, would have solved everything. Its a mile down the page otherwise , who checks that ? (we do, but we were looking for it)
being in the uk, i kind of expect it to be added, don't need to find something in an email to tell me.
its been like that forever!

just pay your taxes man, you're not a billionaire :tantrum:

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LeVzi
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Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:53 am

vurt wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:42 am
LeVzi wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:22 am
jamcat wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:11 pm
So, I did notice this at the bottom of the promotional email I got from PA:
* Local VAT taxes may be added, only if required by law in your country. Offers end October 29, 11:59 PM Pacific Standard Time (PST). The offers in this promotion are fixed price offers, no dynamic discounts will be applied. Dynamic discounts apply to non-promotional plugins though!
If they put that under the bit where they said the names of the plugins not in the sale, would have solved everything. Its a mile down the page otherwise , who checks that ? (we do, but we were looking for it)
being in the uk, i kind of expect it to be added, don't need to find something in an email to tell me.
its been like that forever!

just pay your taxes man, you're not a billionaire :tantrum:
So when someone tells you that costs 29.99 , you then automatically expect VAT to be added ? This isn't a cash and carry.
"T!ts McGee"

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vurt
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Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:59 am

LeVzi wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:53 am
vurt wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:42 am
LeVzi wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:22 am
jamcat wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:11 pm
So, I did notice this at the bottom of the promotional email I got from PA:
* Local VAT taxes may be added, only if required by law in your country. Offers end October 29, 11:59 PM Pacific Standard Time (PST). The offers in this promotion are fixed price offers, no dynamic discounts will be applied. Dynamic discounts apply to non-promotional plugins though!
If they put that under the bit where they said the names of the plugins not in the sale, would have solved everything. Its a mile down the page otherwise , who checks that ? (we do, but we were looking for it)
being in the uk, i kind of expect it to be added, don't need to find something in an email to tell me.
its been like that forever!

just pay your taxes man, you're not a billionaire :tantrum:
So when someone tells you that costs 29.99 , you then automatically expect VAT to be added ? This isn't a cash and carry.
online yes. especially when buying from outside the uk.

in the interest of openness, and i hope this doesn't change peoples opinion of me, i have done a course in book keeping :oops:
i was young :cry: they said it would help my job prospects in the future :cry:

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LeVzi
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Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:01 am

vurt wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:59 am
LeVzi wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:53 am
vurt wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:42 am
LeVzi wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:22 am
jamcat wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:11 pm
So, I did notice this at the bottom of the promotional email I got from PA:
* Local VAT taxes may be added, only if required by law in your country. Offers end October 29, 11:59 PM Pacific Standard Time (PST). The offers in this promotion are fixed price offers, no dynamic discounts will be applied. Dynamic discounts apply to non-promotional plugins though!
If they put that under the bit where they said the names of the plugins not in the sale, would have solved everything. Its a mile down the page otherwise , who checks that ? (we do, but we were looking for it)
being in the uk, i kind of expect it to be added, don't need to find something in an email to tell me.
its been like that forever!

just pay your taxes man, you're not a billionaire :tantrum:
So when someone tells you that costs 29.99 , you then automatically expect VAT to be added ? This isn't a cash and carry.
online yes. especially when buying from outside the uk.

in the interest of openness, and i hope this doesn't change peoples opinion of me, i have done a course in book keeping :oops:
i was young :cry: they said it would help my job prospects in the future :cry:
So how do other companies do it then ? Only a few add VAT, others state the price as it is.

I hope you don't charge by the hour for accounting advice
"T!ts McGee"

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vurt
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Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:09 am

LeVzi wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:01 am

So how do other companies do it then ? Only a few add VAT, others state the price as it is.
well, they either take the hit (doubtful) or are evading paying the tax.
but i wouldn't expect that, id just take that as a nice surprise, and spend the tax on sweets :ud:


and yes, i do hourly rates.
your invoice will include the vat, don't worry :)

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vurt
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Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:17 am

its worse buying hardware, you pay, it gets despatched, you follow tracking across the world, then get a letter from the hmrc saying you can't have it, unless you pay the ransom!!! :x

ok, you expect customs charge, but then they add a fee for bloody writing to you :x bastards.

anttimaatteri
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609 posts since 17 Nov, 2015 from Yuma

Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:58 am

pathetic thread...
first, ...if you hate plugin alliance or their offers so much, why you even bother goin on their site checking, if the obviously so much "beloved" PLUGINALLIANCE software of your choice is cheap as f**k available for you, but DOOOH it isnt?

and second, how many of their plugins are actually excluded from their offering? 5?

you obviously not hating enough, even in your hate you are a mediocre...
in the meantime i get me some byome+triad for 29.99
oh plus vat i forgot...damnfucktards of pa i want my vat for another glass of pickled cucumbers, so that i can live on it for antoher week...:D

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