Mastering with a multi-band-compressor what is your workflow?
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- KVRAF
- 4710 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
Which comp? General wisdom I guess is be aware of re-EQ'ing effects and potential overcompression. Many people will say "only use them rarely and only for problem solving" but there's no strict rule about that, especially in EDM.
I'm a total amateur in mastering but I like to split it into 3 bands and just compress the mids, either leaving highs and lows alone or even using expansion on them rather than comp. FF Pro-MB in tandem with a character type comp (Glue) can do real wonders for that final touch.
I'm a total amateur in mastering but I like to split it into 3 bands and just compress the mids, either leaving highs and lows alone or even using expansion on them rather than comp. FF Pro-MB in tandem with a character type comp (Glue) can do real wonders for that final touch.
- KVRian
- 707 posts since 29 Dec, 2016 from India
ok i use the default frequency band range sent in reaxcomp and adjust the compression in the shape of v type
high compression on subbass and high and low compression on bass and mid
for dubstep
thats what i would say and adjust the threshold according to the song
high compression on subbass and high and low compression on bass and mid
for dubstep
thats what i would say and adjust the threshold according to the song
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- KVRAF
- 2564 posts since 2 Jul, 2010
I mapped out my typical workflow for multiband compression in the attached chart. Would be interesting to know how similar it is to others!
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- KVRAF
- 2564 posts since 2 Jul, 2010
(In seriousness, I find dynamic EQ easier to use than multiband but they have some of the same pros and cons. If you have access to the original tracks, then working on parts of your mix by cutting it up into bands is less precise and sounds less natural than working on it as a set of instruments. Sometimes I find that playing around with multiband comp or dynamic EQ on a mix helps me understand what I want to do to the mix, but a better result can be had by going back to the individual tracks and applying that knowledge there.)
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- KVRAF
- 4710 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
Absolutely - if they're using a multiband compressor on the master to try and keep the kickdrum under control... then they obviously don't have access to the mix! If they do.. go back and fiximrae wrote:helps me understand what I want to do to the mix, but a better result can be had by going back to the individual tracks and applying that knowledge there.)
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- KVRAF
- 2351 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Berkeley, CA
Highly-larious, thanks!imrae wrote:I mapped out my typical workflow for multiband compression in the attached chart. Would be interesting to know how similar it is to others!
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 6 Sep, 2017
My personal preference is to only use three bands (lo, mid, high), I'll normally play with the crossover points a little bit by soloing out a band and sweeping around. Typically like to use a slow attack (~100ms) and release time (~250ms), that way transients keep their punch.
Every song is different and requires a unique decisions, but a common signal path for me is M/S Eq, Multi Band Compression, De-Esser, Tube Eq, Tube comp, a couple different brands of limiters in series. Each piece of equipment is barely doing anything, but all the subtle things add up!
Every song is different and requires a unique decisions, but a common signal path for me is M/S Eq, Multi Band Compression, De-Esser, Tube Eq, Tube comp, a couple different brands of limiters in series. Each piece of equipment is barely doing anything, but all the subtle things add up!
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- KVRist
- 348 posts since 27 Mar, 2008
I've only used the multiband compressors/limiters on "live" stereo recordings to try to improve the balance and remove problems in a recording that I can't re-record. I find them very useful for this type of work.
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- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
I tried to add minimal multiband compression to my finished track yesterday, to tighten low mids. After blind comparisons I figured out I liked the old version more.
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- KVRAF
- 1619 posts since 30 May, 2003 from Milan, Italy
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- KVRAF
- 2908 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK
I more or less second that. They're certainly not something to just throw in a 'I'll give it a try manner'. I might use one if I'm trying to make a poor mix sound 'better' when the original mix is lost to the ether. I might use a linear phase one for a single band in mastering, but that's about it.Hermetech Mastering wrote:Never use one