Musical vs Technical and Understanding Where Your Music Falls
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 5 posts since 2 Oct, 2011 from St.louis
https://youtu.be/HJFcRfg-uY4
Hey everyone, so I while I make these videos centered around Drum & Bass music I feel like the ideas I'm discussing can be applied anywhere. Maybe you'll find them useful, maybe not.
I like to focus more on the "why" in music. Most videos on Youtube are about how you can do something, but I feel like that's only half the picture. Knowing how to get a good sound or tone can only take you so far when you also need to learn how to use it if that makes sense.
Anyway, let me know what you all think if you have the time.
Hey everyone, so I while I make these videos centered around Drum & Bass music I feel like the ideas I'm discussing can be applied anywhere. Maybe you'll find them useful, maybe not.
I like to focus more on the "why" in music. Most videos on Youtube are about how you can do something, but I feel like that's only half the picture. Knowing how to get a good sound or tone can only take you so far when you also need to learn how to use it if that makes sense.
Anyway, let me know what you all think if you have the time.
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- KVRist
- 490 posts since 3 Feb, 2018
Good point to focus on the why. If there's no why to your track it's just another pointless forgettable genre excercise.
But actually I think there's another end to that spectrum, because when jungle became drum 'n bass and went either 'musical' or 'technical' that's when I got bored with it.. not sure how to define it. But if you listen to a lot of the early stuff it's neither musical or technical. That wasn't the appeal then, it was something else which is probably hard to capture now because music has moved on, and dnb is a common sound now. But back then something like Photek was just the most radical, futuristic shit you'd heard. By the time it started to appear on MTV and in car commercials, it lost that edge and I and a lot of people around me moved on. Early dubstep recaptured a bit of that excitement.. also not technical and definitely not musical (except maybe burial, sometimes) but lost it pretty quickly when it became a re-tread of the way d'nb went.
But actually I think there's another end to that spectrum, because when jungle became drum 'n bass and went either 'musical' or 'technical' that's when I got bored with it.. not sure how to define it. But if you listen to a lot of the early stuff it's neither musical or technical. That wasn't the appeal then, it was something else which is probably hard to capture now because music has moved on, and dnb is a common sound now. But back then something like Photek was just the most radical, futuristic shit you'd heard. By the time it started to appear on MTV and in car commercials, it lost that edge and I and a lot of people around me moved on. Early dubstep recaptured a bit of that excitement.. also not technical and definitely not musical (except maybe burial, sometimes) but lost it pretty quickly when it became a re-tread of the way d'nb went.
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- DASH Guy
- 7951 posts since 20 Sep, 2001
Quite interesting, I would just avoid the work "musical" since it's totally ambiguous.
"By the time it started to appear on MTV and in car" it lost freshness for me, "freshness" is something about the triggered emotions, which can be excitement, curiosity and so on.
E.G. Squarepusher used to say he wanted to make sexy grooves.
"By the time it started to appear on MTV and in car" it lost freshness for me, "freshness" is something about the triggered emotions, which can be excitement, curiosity and so on.
E.G. Squarepusher used to say he wanted to make sexy grooves.
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I don't know why, other than I have ideas. I think musical *vs* technical may posit an unnecessary dichotomy at some point and that it relies on subjective opinion, varying from person to person. But I don't wonder about any 'why'.
- KVRAF
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
I think this is probably in the wrong forum as it doesn’t touch on theory at all - it’s much more a discussion of production values.
Maybe it should be moved to Production Techniques?
Maybe it should be moved to Production Techniques?