PHIL COLLINS GATED DRUM SOUND !!!
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 5510 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
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THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- addled muppet weed
- 105855 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.
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- KVRist
- 98 posts since 24 Jun, 2009
Phil Collins' solo efforts seem to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying in a narrower way, especially No Jacket Required and songs like "In the Air Tonight" and "Against All Odds" (though that song was overshadowed by the masterful movie from which it came) and "Take Me Home" and “Sussudio" (great, great song; a personal favorite) and his remake of "You Can't Hurry Love," which I'm not alone in thinking is better than the Supreme's original. But I also think that Phil Collins works better with the confines of the group than as a solo artist--and I stress the word artist. In fact, it applies to all three of the guys, because Genesis is still the best, most exciting band to come out of England in the 1980s.
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- Banned
- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
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- KVRAF
- 2269 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit NE US
80’s? Early 70’s.steveyt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:18 am Phil Collins' solo efforts seem to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying in a narrower way, especially No Jacket Required and songs like "In the Air Tonight" and "Against All Odds" (though that song was overshadowed by the masterful movie from which it came) and "Take Me Home" and “Sussudio" (great, great song; a personal favorite) and his remake of "You Can't Hurry Love," which I'm not alone in thinking is better than the Supreme's original. But I also think that Phil Collins works better with the confines of the group than as a solo artist--and I stress the word artist. In fact, it applies to all three of the guys, because Genesis is still the best, most exciting band to come out of England in the 1980s.
I don’t want to watch the two videos linked ( i would read them) but i’m fairly sure “that drum sound” was discovered by Padham during the sessions for Peter Gabriel 3. I read that in a Hugh Padham interview in SOS many years ago.
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
It was. I don't think Padham was mentioned by name in the video that I linked, he might have been. In any case, Phil was playing as Gabriel had invited him to play on that album. The talkback compressor is discussed in the excellent Vox video linked above, as well as the essence of the sound for anyone that wants to get it today and doesn't know how to put it together. So that people associate the sound with Phil isn't unreasonable as he was the drummer playing while it was discovered and also used to great effect on his solo work.CrystalWizard wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:59 am80’s? Early 70’s.steveyt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:18 am Phil Collins' solo efforts seem to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying in a narrower way, especially No Jacket Required and songs like "In the Air Tonight" and "Against All Odds" (though that song was overshadowed by the masterful movie from which it came) and "Take Me Home" and “Sussudio" (great, great song; a personal favorite) and his remake of "You Can't Hurry Love," which I'm not alone in thinking is better than the Supreme's original. But I also think that Phil Collins works better with the confines of the group than as a solo artist--and I stress the word artist. In fact, it applies to all three of the guys, because Genesis is still the best, most exciting band to come out of England in the 1980s.
I don’t want to watch the two videos linked ( i would read them) but i’m fairly sure “that drum sound” was discovered by Padham during the sessions for Peter Gabriel 3. I read that in a Hugh Padham interview in SOS many years ago.
https://www.prosoundnetwork.com/interna ... gh-padgham“One day Phil was playing in the studio and I inadvertently pressed the talkback button,” recalls Padgham. “Out came this ginormous sound, which everyone in the control room said sounded incredible. They all said, ‘Let’s have a bit of that on something’ but the problem was that because the talkback was built into the desk it couldn’t be recorded.”
To get round this Padgham asked the studios’ maintenance engineers to go into the console, take a feed from the talkback and put that into the jackfield so it could be patched back into the desk for recording. The next day the new effect was played to Gabriel, who decided to write a song round a treated pattern played by Collins. “We started recording and almost for a laugh I switched in a noise gate,” says Padgham. “That’s where the cut-off sound came from. So we now had something that sounded enormous but with no die away.”
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- KVRAF
- 2269 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit NE US
Yes, indeed, i agree. I just wanted to show off and add some historical note. 
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- KVRian
- 665 posts since 1 Jan, 2018
The tasteful thickness of it!vurt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:59 pm Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
I should also mention that I still love the overdone gated reverb snare and miss 80s new wave more than any other genre. If some locals wanted to do an Ultravox tribute band and invited me to play the drums, even though I'm not much of a drummer, I'd be all in right f**king now!
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
That's hardly necessary for the sound. I'm willing to be that the vast majority of 80s gated snare sounds were not recorded using an actual talkback compressor, let alone an SSL talkback compressor. I'm not that impressed with SSL's plugins TBH. I have one of their plugins that they were selling on a "no-brainer" some time back, I never use it.
https://ledgernote.com/columns/mixing-m ... ed-reverb/To get the gated snare drum sound, you need to create a send on it's track to a new auxiliary bus. On this aux bus you need to add a series of plugins in this specific order:
Reverb
Compressor
Noise Gate
Equalizer
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