Ableton Live 9 announced
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- Beware the Quoth
- 33164 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
thats the upgrade from Live8 to Live8 Suite with a free upgrade to Live 9, though, isnt it?Mogular wrote:I just checked my account and I can upgrade to the full suite for US$164 (I already own Live 8, Max4Live and Sampler). That is an incredible price, I am sure I have paid more than that for individual upgrades in the past.whyterabbyt wrote:
I hope folk who already own the v8 Suite and M4L dont get shanked on the upgrade price.
there's no pricing for a Live8 Suite to Live9 Suite upgrade.
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my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- KVRAF
- 11047 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
Got distracted scoping the 'Push' controller 
gorgeous!
May be time to (hopefully) 'upgrade' from Live 7.
gorgeous!May be time to (hopefully) 'upgrade' from Live 7.
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil
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- KVRAF
- 4014 posts since 29 Jun, 2011 from USA
Anyone who uses live, can you tell me what it's like on comparison to a linear DAW?
I am very happy with Cubase as a linear DAW, but really curious to work with clips and loops this way and launch them. The included effects and everything else look really neat too.
Can you tell me how live feels to use it everyday work? Does it really help inspiration or does it get in the way?
So many who produce dance use Ableton, it seems the right tool for the job.
Sami
I am very happy with Cubase as a linear DAW, but really curious to work with clips and loops this way and launch them. The included effects and everything else look really neat too.
Can you tell me how live feels to use it everyday work? Does it really help inspiration or does it get in the way?
So many who produce dance use Ableton, it seems the right tool for the job.
Sami
Aiynzahev-sounds
Sound Designer - Soundsets for Pigments, Repro, Diva, Virus TI, Nord Lead 4, Serum, DUNE2, Spire, and others
Sound Designer - Soundsets for Pigments, Repro, Diva, Virus TI, Nord Lead 4, Serum, DUNE2, Spire, and others
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- KVRist
- 313 posts since 30 May, 2005
Yes that's correct.whyterabbyt wrote:
thats the upgrade from Live8 to Live8 Suite with a free upgrade to Live 9, though, isnt it?
there's no pricing for a Live8 Suite to Live9 Suite upgrade.
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- KVRian
- 908 posts since 10 Jan, 2010
mine (suite boxed, no m4l) shows $299 to upgrade to suite 9. not too bad considering what's in there.
not sure if they will improve that to account for suite boxed vs. suite download...
not sure if they will improve that to account for suite boxed vs. suite download...
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- KVRist
- 63 posts since 18 Dec, 2011 from Germany
You have to log in to see your upgrade offer...whyterabbyt wrote:thats the upgrade from Live8 to Live8 Suite with a free upgrade to Live 9, though, isnt it?Mogular wrote:I just checked my account and I can upgrade to the full suite for US$164 (I already own Live 8, Max4Live and Sampler). That is an incredible price, I am sure I have paid more than that for individual upgrades in the past.whyterabbyt wrote:
I hope folk who already own the v8 Suite and M4L dont get shanked on the upgrade price.
there's no pricing for a Live8 Suite to Live9 Suite upgrade.
i could upgrade for 249€ (suite9) or 698€ (suite9+push) ....
looks like push is the "maschine" for live
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- KVRAF
- 40242 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
beta testing of the update is set to begin shortly and we can expect a release in the first quarter of 2013bronxsound wrote:Ableton did it... released before Bitwig
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- KVRAF
- 2237 posts since 6 Aug, 2007
I don't know, right off the bat, it doesn't look very interesting to me. Seems like a pretty light update:
The automation thing that everyone wanted
Some browser updates
The Glue integrated (pretty cool, I must admit)
Some minor EQ/comp/gate updates
Some updated sounds in the library
Most of the MIDI editing features they are talking about have been there for a while, like note stretching, and double/half timing.
Definitely not an instant upgrade for me. I will have to play around with it when it comes out and see what's what, but overall I am pretty happy with version 8 now that it is 64-bit. $160 feels like a pretty steep price for what feels more like a ".5" update to me, but we'll see.
Push looks pretty cool... Kind of like Ableton/Akai's answer to Maschine. Not really anything I personally would use, but pretty cool looking stuff nonetheless.
edit: however, I can upgrade my standard 8 to Suite 8 for $194, and then get a free upgrade to Suite 9. That actually does sound like a pretty nice deal. Thanks whyterabbit for making aware of that fact. I had missed that.
The automation thing that everyone wanted
Some browser updates
The Glue integrated (pretty cool, I must admit)
Some minor EQ/comp/gate updates
Some updated sounds in the library
Most of the MIDI editing features they are talking about have been there for a while, like note stretching, and double/half timing.
Definitely not an instant upgrade for me. I will have to play around with it when it comes out and see what's what, but overall I am pretty happy with version 8 now that it is 64-bit. $160 feels like a pretty steep price for what feels more like a ".5" update to me, but we'll see.
Push looks pretty cool... Kind of like Ableton/Akai's answer to Maschine. Not really anything I personally would use, but pretty cool looking stuff nonetheless.
edit: however, I can upgrade my standard 8 to Suite 8 for $194, and then get a free upgrade to Suite 9. That actually does sound like a pretty nice deal. Thanks whyterabbit for making aware of that fact. I had missed that.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 33164 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
yes, i know. you're missing my point, by a mile. the upgrades are for upgrading one level of version 8 to a different level of version 8, with a free copy of the version 9 of the level you buy.fugazi81 wrote:You have to log in to see your upgrade offer...
but i already have the v8 of the suite, so there's no higher level to get, ergo there's no price for that. and theres no direct version 8 to version 9 pricing.
follow?
and for me, i already paid for suite 8 and M4L separately. In fact because I own M4L and MAX/MSP6, I can already run Max6 in Live. So if my upgrade to v9 of the Suite costs the same as someone who didnt already own M4L, I'd effectively be paying again for something Ive already got.
Given that MAX/MSP 6 cost half of what MAX/MSP5 cost, but I still had to pay to upgrade to 6, that'd feel a lot like being shanked on MAX6 twice.
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- KVRian
- 1161 posts since 24 Dec, 2004 from Adelaide, South Australia
I just sold my copy, so my opinion is not that of a raging Ableton fan. There were so many bugs in Live 8 (that they did apologise for in their own way), that it was almost unusable for me for quite some time. In that time, I just stopped using it and moved on. The non linear thing is quite good. It can be an inspiration if you want to work that way. You can still use it as a linear sequencer, it's just not really a strength area for it. In no way does it compare with a program like Cubase for Midi or for linear sequencing.Aiynzahev wrote:Anyone who uses live, can you tell me what it's like on comparison to a linear DAW?
I am very happy with Cubase as a linear DAW, but really curious to work with clips and loops this way and launch them. The included effects and everything else look really neat too.
Can you tell me how live feels to use it everyday work? Does it really help inspiration or does it get in the way?
So many who produce dance use Ableton, it seems the right tool for the job.
Sami
If you are happy to use it as a scratchpad or record your live looped performances, then go for it.
What turned me off was the: bad mixing paradigm (poor metering, inability to see all fx at once across tracks), the look and feel (I just got sick of geometric shapes), the bugs (too many crashes in Live
, poor midi, and the whole Live laptop/electro/techno thing...In the end, I'm just more of a linear guy and Live has weaknesses in that area.
For me, Live 9 looks more of the same.
Mixcraft 8 Recording Studio : Reason 10
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- KVRian
- 1482 posts since 19 Aug, 2009
Edit
A nice update, audio to midi is nice as is Max4Live as standard, but I would expect more, specially after so much time.
A nice update but nothing major IMO, it will not be a big reason for a upgrade...
Anyway, quite sad that there isnt a Linux version, at least I hope that it plays nice with WINE.
Any news on the copy protection system?
A nice update, audio to midi is nice as is Max4Live as standard, but I would expect more, specially after so much time.
A nice update but nothing major IMO, it will not be a big reason for a upgrade...
Anyway, quite sad that there isnt a Linux version, at least I hope that it plays nice with WINE.
Any news on the copy protection system?
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- KVRist
- 63 posts since 18 Dec, 2011 from Germany
"Already own Live? Log in to see your upgrade offers."whyterabbyt wrote:yes, i know. you're missing my point, by a mile. the upgrades are for upgrading one level of version 8 to a different level of version 8, with a free copy of the version 9 of the level you buy.fugazi81 wrote:You have to log in to see your upgrade offer...
but i already have the v8 of the suite, so there's no higher level to get, ergo there's no price for that. and theres no direct version 8 to version 9 pricing.
follow?
and for me, i already paid for suite 8 and M4L separately. In fact because I own M4L and MAX/MSP6, I can already run Max6 in Live. So if my upgrade to v9 of the Suite costs the same as someone who didnt already own M4L, I'd effectively be paying again for something Ive already got.
Given that MAX/MSP 6 cost half of what MAX/MSP5 cost, but I still had to pay to upgrade to 6, that'd feel a lot like being shanked on MAX6 twice.
There are two prices 599€ (not logged in) and
249€ (after i logged in)
on the site it states
"These are your best available upgrade offers."
I hope you get a even better price, because you own Max4Live already?
I hope i don't hurt your feelings.. Just want to help.
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- KVRAF
- 2946 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2012/ ... more-43695
This alone makes me wish I used Ableton Live!
This alone makes me wish I used Ableton Live!
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- KVRian
- 905 posts since 3 Sep, 2011
As a suite owner who does not own M4L, even I consider $300 a slightly high price for upgrading.
And the upgrade so far seems pretty meh .. surely they couldn't have taken three years for this. Unless there's a lot of under-the-hood improvements, and more info to be released as we get closer to the release date.
Its cool to get M4L and the additional packs by upgrading, but all these addons have existed for years. If there is no more news to come, I won't be rushing to upgrade, and will wait till Ableton have a sale.
And the upgrade so far seems pretty meh .. surely they couldn't have taken three years for this. Unless there's a lot of under-the-hood improvements, and more info to be released as we get closer to the release date.
Its cool to get M4L and the additional packs by upgrading, but all these addons have existed for years. If there is no more news to come, I won't be rushing to upgrade, and will wait till Ableton have a sale.
