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Spin Boyz · Post by **Spin Boyz** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:38 am

http://cdm.link/2007/11/interview-cakew ... -years-on/

stacev · Post by **stacev** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:54 am

Spin Boyz wrote:http://cdm.link/2007/11/interview-cakew ... -years-on/

The most surprising thing in this article is that they had separately dedicated Quality Assurance resource. Knowing what a buggy mess Sonar was at that time it's hard to believe this article is authentic.

Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:08 am

I'm sorry, thanks for correcting me. My memory isn't what it used to be. And my first version was only Pro Audio 7 I think.

Yes, Steve, that must be what I am half-remembering. I remember reading reviews back in the day stating that it excelled over other DAWs regarding audio recording, though I surely do not remember why!

I have a 32-bit distortion dll that is just better than anything else I've tried, so I keep using it because it sounds good! I have used it for all my "guitar" sounds for years. If support for 32-bit plugs ever goes away, I will cry. Here are examples of that sound from the now defunct Acmebargig Metal C-15 dll:

https://soundcloud.com/dan-ling/time-out
https://soundcloud.com/dan-ling/acid-eats-metal
https://soundcloud.com/dan-ling/pink-jam
https://soundcloud.com/dan-ling/ryan

VELLTONE MUSIC · Post by **VELLTONE MUSIC** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:20 pm

Most weird thing is that 32bit architecture is abandoned like something useless,when still there is tons of quality unique 32bit synths and fx many people use.

planetearth · Post by **planetearth** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:08 pm

Gonga wrote:I'm sorry, thanks for correcting me. My memory isn't what it used to be. And my first version was only Pro Audio 7 I think.

Yes, Steve, that must be what I am half-remembering. I remember reading reviews back in the day stating that it excelled over other DAWs regarding audio recording, though I surely do not remember why!

I have a 32-bit distortion dll that is just better than anything else I've tried, so I keep using it because it sounds good! I have used it for all my "guitar" sounds for years. If support for 32-bit plugs ever goes away, I will cry. Here are examples of that sound from the now defunct Acmebargig Metal C-15 dll:

https://soundcloud.com/dan-ling/time-out
https://soundcloud.com/dan-ling/acid-eats-metal
https://soundcloud.com/dan-ling/pink-jam
https://soundcloud.com/dan-ling/ryan

Those are some cool distortion sounds on those tracks. Were they all from Acme Bar Gig? I used to have that, and I see you can still download it here: http://www.grebz.com/simulator_freeamp_ ... p#metalc15

Steve

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:15 pm

VELLTONE MUSIC wrote:Most weird thing is that 32bit architecture is abandoned like something useless,when still there is tons of quality unique 32bit synths and fx many people use.

Some DAW developers have chosen to focus exclusively on 64-bit hosts. Cakewalk has built-in bit bridging for 32-bit plugins, so you can continue to use your favorites.

I think the biggest problem may be with the 32-bit plugins that are abandoned and no longer developed, so that they may become susceptible to becoming buggy as modern host software evolves, while they do not. If a dev chooses to keep supporting the plugin, then great, but that will not always be the case.

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:21 pm

Gonga wrote:I'm sorry, thanks for correcting me. My memory isn't what it used to be. And my first version was only Pro Audio 7 I think.

Yes, Steve, that must be what I am half-remembering. I remember reading reviews back in the day stating that it excelled over other DAWs regarding audio recording, though I surely do not remember why!

I have a 32-bit distortion dll that is just better than anything else I've tried, so I keep using it because it sounds good! I have used it for all my "guitar" sounds for years. If support for 32-bit plugs ever goes away, I will cry. Here are examples of that sound from the now defunct Acmebargig Metal C-15 dll:

https://soundcloud.com/dan-ling/time-out
https://soundcloud.com/dan-ling/acid-eats-metal
https://soundcloud.com/dan-ling/pink-jam
https://soundcloud.com/dan-ling/ryan

Those are some very cool jams!

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:57 am

So how do things currently stand now in 2019 versus Cubase 10. Is the current version of Cakewalk by BandLab much more stable?

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:05 pm

It's free, so give it a try...

Stability has more to do with what kind of computer setup you are running, what audio drivers, what plugins you use, etc.

On its own on a reliable system, Cakewalk is very stable. Any software can have conflicts with certain 3rd party plugins. Best to find out what works best for your situation.

wetdentist · Post by **wetdentist** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:19 pm

on my system, Windows 10 x64 with a Roland Quad-Capture interface, and ZERO 32 bit plugins, my Cakewalk by Bandlab is extremely stable

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:02 pm

v1o wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:57 am So how do things currently stand now in 2019 versus Cubase 10. Is the current version of Cakewalk by BandLab much more stable?

Features & Enhancements

"The global Timing tool has been renamed to Stretch tool"
https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php? ... se-201905/

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They must have something like 10 years worth of bugs to fix in Cakewalk Sonar...

I had nothing but pain and misery with this old and clunky DAW, that I had uninstalled it after a week... going back to Studio One was a huge relief...I'm sure that there was many Cubase users that tried it, who felt much the same.

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:13 pm

The new team have been putting in serious work to squash bugs.

I have not used it a lot of late, but when I do its stable on my machine.

I used it pretty much exclusively for a year until I bought Studio One Pro and Cubase and enjoyed using it just as much as either of those two DAWs.

My only real issue with it was that its free.

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:30 pm

I have Studio One Pro 4 and Ableton Live 10, and I still make use of Cakewalk. If you are a heavy MIDI user, Cubase is probably the best alternative to Cakewalk for Windows users. There are a number of Cakewalk users that have moved towards Cubase, but it's not for everyone considering the cost, learning curve, and the hardware dongle...

rlared · Post by **rlared** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:56 pm

For the pricetag of "free", it's hard to beat Cakewalk by Bandlab. It has a nice interface and is full-featured. Also it includes enough effects plugins to do what you need to do. In my experience though, there are quite a few random bugs and things that don't work like they should. I personally experienced that with MIDI controllers just suddenly not working, MIDI clips misbehaving, occassional crashes, etc. I know Cakewalk is putting work into improving this, which is great. How you feel about ProChannel at this point depends on the person. . . I personally prefer either a much more compact channel strip built-in or just using VST's, but some people love ProChannel.

In my humble opinion, I find Cubase 10 Pro to be a better overall DAW. I haven't noticed many bugs or glitchy things. Chord track is great, better score editor, better audio and MIDI editing tools, Steinberg created the VST standard. 3rd party support and integration is good. Of course, you have to pay quite a bit for it. But between the two, I chose to pay for Cubase rather than use CbB.

But could I happily work with CbB? Absolutely, I could probably happily work with any DAW.

3ptguitarist · Post by **3ptguitarist** » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:16 pm

I used to use cakewalk but I've now gotten ableton live and cubase because of komplete kontrol support among other reasons. I think have manufacturer support is a big reason why I didnt stick with cakewalk

Bandlab Cakewak vs Cubase