My DAW PC hates me though I shower it with nothing but love..time to switch to a Mac?

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chk071
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18865 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:56 am

Coxy wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:29 am
fmr wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:23 am
dellboy wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:47 am
*EDIT*

I have just noticed that the same i-MAC is on sale at PC World for £1,049 with a discount code that brings it down to £949. There is also a further possible discount of £200 for a trade in for a working laptop. So this brings it down to a possible £749 without Logic Pro x included.
Which means Apple is ripping off its customers, and could very well be selling the £1248.99
Yeah like Audi, Mercedes, BMW, Lexus rip off their customers too. Cause the end of the day it's just a 2.0 petrol car with 4 seats and a steering wheel right...?
Really bad comparison. You don't have Audi, Mercedes, BMW or Lexus components in a VW Golf.

dellboy
KVRian
796 posts since 28 Mar, 2007

Re: My DAW PC hates me though I shower it with nothing but love..time to switch to a Mac?

Post Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:29 am

fmr wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:23 am
dellboy wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:47 am
*EDIT*

I have just noticed that the same i-MAC is on sale at PC World for £1,049 with a discount code that brings it down to £949. There is also a further possible discount of £200 for a trade in for a working laptop. So this brings it down to a possible £749 without Logic Pro x included.
Which means Apple is ripping off its customers, and could very well be selling the £1248.99 by almost half the price.
To be fair, its pretty standard practice for items to cost more when purchased direct from the manufacturer using their main website. Also bear in mind that the price of £1248.99 includes Logic Pro X which I was not able to include on the PC World website.

dellboy
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796 posts since 28 Mar, 2007

Re: My DAW PC hates me though I shower it with nothing but love..time to switch to a Mac?

Post Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:36 am

Coxy wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:29 am

Yeah like Audi, Mercedes, BMW, Lexus rip off their customers too. Cause the end of the day it's just a 2.0 petrol car with 4 seats and a steering wheel right...?
Not a good comparison because the base level i-MAC uses bog standard off the shelf components. The graphics for instance come courtesy of Intel Iris integrated.

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Zombie Queen
KVRAF
4543 posts since 1 Aug, 2005 from Warszawa, Poland

Re: My DAW PC hates me though I shower it with nothing but love..time to switch to a Mac?

Post Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:31 am

chk071 wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:56 am
Really bad comparison. You don't have Audi, Mercedes, BMW or Lexus components in a VW Golf.
But you do have VW Golf components in Audi. Gotta love those car comparisons.

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fmr
KVRAF
8509 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Re: My DAW PC hates me though I shower it with nothing but love..time to switch to a Mac?

Post Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:41 am

Zombie Queen wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:31 am
chk071 wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:56 am
Really bad comparison. You don't have Audi, Mercedes, BMW or Lexus components in a VW Golf.
But you do have VW Golf components in Audi. Gotta love those car comparisons.
Do they share the same engine? I'M far from being a car expert (I don't even drive) but I don't think so.

And that's the main thing we are talking about here: comparing Macs and PCs that share the same engine (CPU).
Fernando (FMR)

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KVRAF
4543 posts since 1 Aug, 2005 from Warszawa, Poland

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Post Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:50 am

fmr wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:41 am
Do they share the same engine?
Yes. If you get a diesel it's the same tdi in Audio, Volkswagen, Skoda and Seat. And that's the same company. Moreover, nowadays you find the same engines across different brands, you can find Volkswagen tdi in a Jeep, Mitsubishi or Dodge. I have an Opel with Fiat engine. Before that I had a Volvo with Renault engine, go figure.

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fmr
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8509 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Re: My DAW PC hates me though I shower it with nothing but love..time to switch to a Mac?

Post Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:02 pm

Zombie Queen wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:50 am
fmr wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:41 am
Do they share the same engine?
Yes. If you get a diesel it's the same tdi in Audio, Volkswagen, Skoda and Seat. And that's the same company. Moreover, nowadays you find the same engines across different brands, you can find Volkswagen tdi in a Jeep, Mitsubishi or Dodge. I have an Opel with Fiat engine. Before that I had a Volvo with Renault engine, go figure.
Then I guess a wise consumer would buy the cheaper one, since the "guts" (mechanics) are similar (but again, I know nothing about cars) :hihi:
Fernando (FMR)

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Re: My DAW PC hates me though I shower it with nothing but love..time to switch to a Mac?

Post Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:15 pm

fmr wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:02 pm
Then I guess a wise consumer would buy the cheaper one, since the "guts" (mechanics) are similar (but again, I know nothing about cars) :hihi:
Yeah, the main difference is in prestige/coolness factor and finish/comfort/peripherals... Same as PC vs MAC. :lol:

glokraw
KVRAF
6715 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: My DAW PC hates me though I shower it with nothing but love..time to switch to a Mac?

Post Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:19 pm

One can acquire a music computer with the best componants,
without subsidizing a massive marketing machine.
One can buy cheap cars that get recycled instead of
repaired at expense greater than the car's diminishing $value.
We don't have to buy things based on what our
co-workers, peer group, family, or neighborhood denizens
expect of us.

I doubt there even is "a mac" anymore, one can choose
what operating system to run on nearly any modern computer,
and in any given session.
Cheers

THE INTRANCER
KVRian
838 posts since 30 Dec, 2014

Re: My DAW PC hates me though I shower it with nothing but love..time to switch to a Mac?

Post Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:30 pm

If would good if the OP can confirm if the suggested solutions have solved his BSOD's...with Cubase.

On page 8 of this thread I highlighted the ways in which you can keep the BSOD displayed, if that was an issue. If you can copy and post what that error code is, this will help confirm to us..what the problem is.
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Coxy
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671 posts since 31 Aug, 2004 from England !

Re: My DAW PC hates me though I shower it with nothing but love..time to switch to a Mac?

Post Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:35 pm

chk071 wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:56 am
Really bad comparison. You don't have Audi, Mercedes, BMW or Lexus components in a VW Golf.
Yes you do.

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Coxy
KVRian
671 posts since 31 Aug, 2004 from England !

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Post Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:36 pm

fmr wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:41 am
Do they share the same engine?
Often yes.

Theoctavist
KVRer
21 posts since 2 Jul, 2016

Re: My DAW PC hates me though I shower it with nothing but love..time to switch to a Mac?

Post Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:34 pm

run the tron script.

run these

profit. I use these on any w10 install. every install.
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THE INTRANCER
KVRian
838 posts since 30 Dec, 2014

Re: My DAW PC hates me though I shower it with nothing but love..time to switch to a Mac?

Post Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:06 pm

^ Don't run any scripts on your PC, you don't know about, that's how you create more problems, and seeing as the OP is using Windows 7 rather than Windows 10, that's even more inadvisable.
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starise
KVRist
42 posts since 31 Aug, 2007

Re: My DAW PC hates me though I shower it with nothing but love..time to switch to a Mac?

Post Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:01 am

An imac pro loaded up for serious recording will set you back $5000.
https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/imac ... -MQ2Y2LL/A

I picked up an HP Omen as a second computer to my desktop daw for stage work. i7 cpu, Large 7200 rpm OS drive, secondary 7200rpm HDD, 16gb ram, LARGE 17" screen, lighted keys, Gaming graphics card. Plenty of I/O including usb 3 and DVD/CD player burner. On board sound isn't bad for a laptop. My price was around $1200 because it was a year old model and it was a year end sale. For me I guess it's pure economics.

$1500.00 for a Macbook with an i5 chip isn't really a terrible price. Probably ok for most home studio work if the mixes don't get too demanding. I loaded NI complete and two daws on my Omen though. Just bought my wife a 12.6" iPad pro for her work refurbished for $1000. The pen was $100.00 for it. :eek: It's a really nice iPad, but wow. Apple definitely over prices their stuff.

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