Cubase Pro 10 What can I use from it in other DAWs?
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
And again, this is with a Nuendo license, when I tested that. (Only out of curiosity, and I was curious about like two, maybe three patches I might use. But it's such squalor I deleted everything. I've never used Steinberg's instruments.)
On the dongle.
On the dongle.
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- KVRian
- 880 posts since 26 Oct, 2011
couple things about retrologue and padshop:
1. Retrologue isn't anything awfully special. It has PWM, it has osc sync and it's decent as a cookiecutter subtractive synth with 3 oscs + 1 sub osc. Have one already? I say don't bother with retrologue. It's good at what it does, but there's so much else out there that does the same and it's not worth the price of Cubase if you're just interested in content that is behind it rather than the DAW itself. Retrologue in particular doesn't offer any super-fancy features like say, Serum does with its filter section.
2. Padshop Pro isn't the same as Padshop. Back when I bought Cubase (things might have changed now), you had to purchase Padshop Pro license separately for like, 20-25€? It unlocks custom sample import option for Padshop and I think it allows you to use it in other daws.
But as for Padshop Pro itself, it's closer to a wavetable synth than a granular synth in terms of what kind of results you usually get with it. It sometimes feels like they designed the thing to basically do somewhat what wavetable synths do but without being a wavetable synth in itself. Sure, it all depends on what kind of material you feed it. But if you want actually interesting granular synth, you probably want to look elsewhere for one. For example, if you happen to use Ableton, it has Granulator II M4L module which I guess is sort of like a holy grail of granulators. There's even a pay-what-you-want Ribs which seems to be high up there but haven't had much experience with it either because it's wonky with Cubase.
As for Halion or Halion Sonic, I can't speak much for those since I practically never use them. I mean, I don't even have Halion license, but I do have Halion Sonic SE; I just always remove the content
1. Retrologue isn't anything awfully special. It has PWM, it has osc sync and it's decent as a cookiecutter subtractive synth with 3 oscs + 1 sub osc. Have one already? I say don't bother with retrologue. It's good at what it does, but there's so much else out there that does the same and it's not worth the price of Cubase if you're just interested in content that is behind it rather than the DAW itself. Retrologue in particular doesn't offer any super-fancy features like say, Serum does with its filter section.
2. Padshop Pro isn't the same as Padshop. Back when I bought Cubase (things might have changed now), you had to purchase Padshop Pro license separately for like, 20-25€? It unlocks custom sample import option for Padshop and I think it allows you to use it in other daws.
But as for Padshop Pro itself, it's closer to a wavetable synth than a granular synth in terms of what kind of results you usually get with it. It sometimes feels like they designed the thing to basically do somewhat what wavetable synths do but without being a wavetable synth in itself. Sure, it all depends on what kind of material you feed it. But if you want actually interesting granular synth, you probably want to look elsewhere for one. For example, if you happen to use Ableton, it has Granulator II M4L module which I guess is sort of like a holy grail of granulators. There's even a pay-what-you-want Ribs which seems to be high up there but haven't had much experience with it either because it's wonky with Cubase.
As for Halion or Halion Sonic, I can't speak much for those since I practically never use them. I mean, I don't even have Halion license, but I do have Halion Sonic SE; I just always remove the content
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- KVRAF
- 5691 posts since 24 May, 2004 from []1
Sample Fuel https://www.samplefuel.com/ make some versatile instruments for Halion Sonic SE, including some nice freebies.
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- KVRAF
- 5691 posts since 24 May, 2004 from []1
I doubt it.
Gospel Musicians has quite a bit of the old Yamaha stuff ported to vsts.
Gospel Musicians has quite a bit of the old Yamaha stuff ported to vsts.
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- KVRAF
- 3508 posts since 12 May, 2011
HALion Sonic SE comes with nothing, just the player. Really, no content whatsoever. It's sole purpose is to encourage 3rd parties to release libraries for its big brother.
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- KVRian
- 1286 posts since 7 Dec, 2013 from Earth
Padshop, Retrologue and Halion Sonic SE work for me in other DAW's, both in VST2 and VST3 format. I remember I had to copy the DLL files for Padshop and Retrologue to my VST2 folder to make them work in VST2 only hosts (Ableton Live 10.0.6, Komplete Kontrol, Maschine).
For Halion Sonic SE I installed the standalone version, which is free. It then automatically detected all content that came with Cubase.
Edit: For Padshop and Retrologue I copied the DLL's from C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\VstPlugins to my VST2 folder.
For Halion Sonic SE I installed the standalone version, which is free. It then automatically detected all content that came with Cubase.
Edit: For Padshop and Retrologue I copied the DLL's from C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\VstPlugins to my VST2 folder.
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- KVRist
- 51 posts since 13 May, 2019
As Reefius says, you have to install the standalone version of Halion Sonic SE to use it in other DAWs - it will detect and work with the content bundled with Cubase. It is important to note, however, that there is much less content supplied with Cubase Pro or Nuendo than with a paid for version of Halion Sonic or Halion.Googly Smythe wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 7:42 am HALion Sonic SE comes with nothing, just the player. Really, no content whatsoever. It's sole purpose is to encourage 3rd parties to release libraries for its big brother.
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- KVRAF
- 3368 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
Cubase is 30+ gigs. I thought the majority of this was Halion SE sample content?David W wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 7:03 pmAs Reefius says, you have to install the standalone version of Halion Sonic SE to use it in other DAWs - it will detect and work with the content bundled with Cubase. It is important to note, however, that there is much less content supplied with Cubase Pro or Nuendo than with a paid for version of Halion Sonic or Halion.Googly Smythe wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 7:42 am HALion Sonic SE comes with nothing, just the player. Really, no content whatsoever. It's sole purpose is to encourage 3rd parties to release libraries for its big brother.
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- Banned
- 2288 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada
Yup. That's one of the reasons I am holding back. I don't what to install 30 gig of stuff I will seldom use.v1o wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 10:45 pmCubase is 30+ gigs. I thought the majority of this was Halion SE sample content?David W wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 7:03 pmAs Reefius says, you have to install the standalone version of Halion Sonic SE to use it in other DAWs - it will detect and work with the content bundled with Cubase. It is important to note, however, that there is much less content supplied with Cubase Pro or Nuendo than with a paid for version of Halion Sonic or Halion.Googly Smythe wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 7:42 am HALion Sonic SE comes with nothing, just the player. Really, no content whatsoever. It's sole purpose is to encourage 3rd parties to release libraries for its big brother.
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Gear & Setup: Windows 10, Dual Xeon, 32GB RAM, Cubase 10.5/9.5, NI Komplete Audio 6, NI Maschine, NI Jam, NI Kontakt
Gear & Setup: Windows 10, Dual Xeon, 32GB RAM, Cubase 10.5/9.5, NI Komplete Audio 6, NI Maschine, NI Jam, NI Kontakt
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- KVRAF
- 35405 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Don't forget the 20 plus individual installations that will end up your system as well (and which you'll have to uninstall individually, if you want to uninstall Cubase). You know, nothing against Cubase, but, that was very annoying for me.
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Actually for them to 'end up' on your system you've installed them. Unless windows is radically different in this regard, the installer will have an arrow to reveal all the content to install. I install almost none of it now.
I found that the installation of the Halion stuff this way is major squalor, redundancy in three locations, stupid locations like Halion VST Sound inside of Halion inside of VST Sound, like someone with a big cocaine problem created the installer. With everything checked, the installation is 27.31GB!
I found that the installation of the Halion stuff this way is major squalor, redundancy in three locations, stupid locations like Halion VST Sound inside of Halion inside of VST Sound, like someone with a big cocaine problem created the installer. With everything checked, the installation is 27.31GB!
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- KVRAF
- 3508 posts since 12 May, 2011
What I was trying to say was that the HALion SE download on it's own has no content. The content comes from somewhere else - HALion/Sonic, Cubase or 3rd parties such as SampleFuel &tc.v1o wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 10:45 pmCubase is 30+ gigs. I thought the majority of this was Halion SE sample content?David W wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 7:03 pmAs Reefius says, you have to install the standalone version of Halion Sonic SE to use it in other DAWs - it will detect and work with the content bundled with Cubase. It is important to note, however, that there is much less content supplied with Cubase Pro or Nuendo than with a paid for version of Halion Sonic or Halion.Googly Smythe wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 7:42 am HALion Sonic SE comes with nothing, just the player. Really, no content whatsoever. It's sole purpose is to encourage 3rd parties to release libraries for its big brother.
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- KVRAF
- 2583 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
Cubase is a fantastic DAW - really. But all these additional
VSTis and sample-loops are annoying. I see these as
"useless bothersome bloatware".
VSTis and sample-loops are annoying. I see these as
"useless bothersome bloatware".
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