Reason 11 announced!!!

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Anosou
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198 posts since 22 Jul, 2011 from Stockholm, Sweden

Post Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:45 am

keel wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:43 am
Anosou, how you can keep ignoring that high resolution graphis on every year and every release? As far as I know, the GUI is drawn by CPU, which makes it slow and laggy. Come and, add scaleable gui with GPU render, it's really time for that. It has been years already.
Believe me, we're not ignoring it. I can't say anything definite but we're acutely aware.

keel
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790 posts since 27 Oct, 2004 from Inside the kick drum

Re: Reason 11 announced!!!

Post Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:48 am

Anosou wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:45 am
keel wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:43 am
Anosou, how you can keep ignoring that high resolution graphis on every year and every release? As far as I know, the GUI is drawn by CPU, which makes it slow and laggy. Come and, add scaleable gui with GPU render, it's really time for that. It has been years already.
Believe me, we're not ignoring it. I can't say anything definite but we're acutely aware.
Then why don't you make anything about it? It has been most request feature for years. I personally was like 99% sure that it will finally become on Reason 11. But no. Same old shiet.

xbitz
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2682 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Re: Reason 11 announced!!!

Post Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:53 am

Anosou wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:30 am
kae wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:23 am
Reason FAQ:
No, ReWire has been discontinued in Reason 11
And no plans for AAX, yet at least. So Reason 11 will be incompatible with Pro Tools :(
No point in updating then.
AU is coming before the end of the year and we're looking at AAX but I can't say exactly when/if. :party:
please create the MIDI-FX version too, Player Devices(on External MIDI Instruments) would be very useful in Logic :hail:
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loungepanda
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401 posts since 27 Apr, 2013 from Denmark

Re: Reason 11 announced!!!

Post Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:55 am

What'll be interesting is whether or not this will rejuvenate the Rack Extension format, because RE development has been stagnating for ages now.

Anosou
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198 posts since 22 Jul, 2011 from Stockholm, Sweden

Re: Reason 11 announced!!!

Post Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:58 am

keel wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:48 am
Anosou wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:45 am
keel wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:43 am
Anosou, how you can keep ignoring that high resolution graphis on every year and every release? As far as I know, the GUI is drawn by CPU, which makes it slow and laggy. Come and, add scaleable gui with GPU render, it's really time for that. It has been years already.
Believe me, we're not ignoring it. I can't say anything definite but we're acutely aware.
Then why don't you make anything about it? It has been most request feature for years. I personally was like 99% sure that it will finally become on Reason 11. But no. Same old shiet.
In the interest of honesty, it's not been the most requested feature for years. We do surveys, stalk forums, interview users, do market research and so on and while it's definitely requested, it's not the most requested feature. Doesn't mean we won't do it, but just wanted to clarify.

That aside, we're absolutely looking at it but as a company representative I simply can't say when/if we'll do it yet. Sorry!

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antic604
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4054 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: Reason 11 announced!!!

Post Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:00 am

Anosou wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:40 am
Correct! All REs are fully compatible with Reason Rack Plugin, so if you own them they'll work.
Can Reason Rack Plugin host 3rd party VSTs?

Can Reason Rack Plugin be used as a MIDI source, i.e. use QNG or PolyStep Players to drive Serum or Avenger?
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tatanka
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1290 posts since 13 Jan, 2014

Re: Reason 11 announced!!!

Post Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:01 am

What I really wonder about how/if the great midi fx/sequencers/arp, especially the new ones in Reason 10, will work in the rack in another VST. Does midi drag and drop for example will work in another daw ?

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Omkar
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897 posts since 25 Dec, 2007 from Hamburg,Germany

Re: Reason 11 announced!!!

Post Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:02 am

Had the news in the mail and first thought,
"this move makes Reason even thinkable as an option".
To have Reason within one`s daw is literally a game changer.

Pretty unexpected (also for the wallet) but very welcomed.
Will closely watch infos, user reports in particular.

Congrats to Propeller team, nice one.
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chk071
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23191 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Reason 11 announced!!!

Post Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:04 am

Anosou wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:58 am
keel wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:48 am
Anosou wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:45 am
keel wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:43 am
Anosou, how you can keep ignoring that high resolution graphis on every year and every release? As far as I know, the GUI is drawn by CPU, which makes it slow and laggy. Come and, add scaleable gui with GPU render, it's really time for that. It has been years already.
Believe me, we're not ignoring it. I can't say anything definite but we're acutely aware.
Then why don't you make anything about it? It has been most request feature for years. I personally was like 99% sure that it will finally become on Reason 11. But no. Same old shiet.
In the interest of honesty, it's not been the most requested feature for years. We do surveys, stalk forums, interview users, do market research and so on and while it's definitely requested, it's not the most requested feature. Doesn't mean we won't do it, but just wanted to clarify.
The usual... forum peeps always think their most requested features are the common public's most requested features. :D

Anosou
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198 posts since 22 Jul, 2011 from Stockholm, Sweden

Re: Reason 11 announced!!!

Post Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:05 am

antic604 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:00 am
Anosou wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:40 am
Correct! All REs are fully compatible with Reason Rack Plugin, so if you own them they'll work.
Can Reason Rack Plugin host 3rd party VSTs?

Can Reason Rack Plugin be used as a MIDI source, i.e. use QNG or PolyStep Players to drive Serum or Avenger?
tatanka wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:01 am
What I really wonder about how/if the great midi fx/sequencers/arp, especially the new ones in Reason 10, will work in the rack in another VST. Does midi drag and drop for example will work in another daw ?
Not in the first version, no. And we have no plans for hosting VSTs inside our VST, high inception-warning on that one. Happy to hear you're interested in using Players as MIDI FX in your DAW though, definitely a good idea.

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antic604
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4054 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: Reason 11 announced!!!

Post Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:10 am

Anosou wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:05 am
Happy to hear you're interested in using Players as MIDI FX in your DAW though, definitely a good idea.
:tu: Please consider that - there's NOTHING as powerful and easy like QNG, PolyStep or Delta MIDI Computer in VST world (I really searched).
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Lotuz2019
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487 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands

Re: Reason 11 announced!!!

Post Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:14 am

I'm a bit confused about how to use Reason as a VST host in combination with another DAW. Before Reason 11 there was ReWire, but how are you supposed to use Reason as a VST host without ReWire? :?

medienhexer
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879 posts since 16 May, 2007 from At home. Good bye city ways!

Re: Reason 11 announced!!!

Post Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:15 am

Anosou wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:05 am
antic604 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:00 am
Anosou wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:40 am
Correct! All REs are fully compatible with Reason Rack Plugin, so if you own them they'll work.
Can Reason Rack Plugin host 3rd party VSTs?

Can Reason Rack Plugin be used as a MIDI source, i.e. use QNG or PolyStep Players to drive Serum or Avenger?
tatanka wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:01 am
What I really wonder about how/if the great midi fx/sequencers/arp, especially the new ones in Reason 10, will work in the rack in another VST. Does midi drag and drop for example will work in another daw ?
Not in the first version, no. And we have no plans for hosting VSTs inside our VST, high inception-warning on that one. Happy to hear you're interested in using Players as MIDI FX in your DAW though, definitely a good idea.
+1, that would be fantastic. Since Logic was basically stripped of the Environment (I know, it’s just old and wounded) and no modular features are in sight (yet?), there is a lot of automation data required to keep things interesting. MIDI FX are a great way of making that a little easier and if Reason were to step in, that would increase its value even more for me.
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starflakeprj
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1308 posts since 28 Feb, 2015

Re: Reason 11 announced!!!

Post Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:24 am

Lotuz2019 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:14 am
I'm a bit confused about how to use Reason as a VST host in combination with another DAW. Before Reason 11 there was ReWire, but how are you supposed to use Reason as a VST host without ReWire? :?
Read the announcement, watch the video. It clearly says it's only the rack which is loaded as a VST in any DAW that supports VST. In this VST you can choose the different Rack Extensions that you own.
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Distorted Horizon
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3429 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats

Re: Reason 11 announced!!!

Post Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:33 am

Props, take my money.

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