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KVRAF
1827 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England

Post Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:53 am

antic604 wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:09 am
mcbpete wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:54 am
Yeah about the same for me - Each takes a little under a second to load, the Wavetable (possibly) taking the longest of the three
Is this on a freshly reset computer and freshly launched Live?
Aye - first boot of live after restarting Windows. I've an SSD as well if that makes any odds speed wise - Though I don't remember wavetable taking too much longer in Ableton 10 on my old machine that had a hybrid spinning/SSD drive

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KVRAF
9979 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:55 am

mcbpete wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:53 am
antic604 wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:09 am
mcbpete wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:54 am
Yeah about the same for me - Each takes a little under a second to load, the Wavetable (possibly) taking the longest of the three
Is this on a freshly reset computer and freshly launched Live?
Aye - first boot of live after restarting Windows. I've an SSD as well if that makes any odds speed wise - Though I don't remember wavetable taking too much longer in Ableton 10 on my old machine that had a hybrid spinning/SSD drive
Thanks. I'm also on SSD, so that shouldn't be the difference.
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KVRAF
7929 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:59 am

No idea, very odd - I can see Cubase on your desktop, I blame that ;-)
Wait for b5 to drop (its RC) and hope that cures it (it has a max update I think)?
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KVRAF
9979 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:02 am

SLiC wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:59 am
No idea, very odd - I can see Cubase on your desktop, I blame that ;-)
Possibly, although because of the dongle that I've stashed somewhere in the closed I barely ever use it :shrug:
SLiC wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:59 am
Wait for b5 to drop (its RC) and hope that cures it (it has a max update I think)?
Let's hope! :tu:
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KVRist
97 posts since 19 May, 2017

Post Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:22 am

antic604 wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:09 am
Serhii Kot wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:41 am
Mac Mini M1, loads instantly. Wavetable maybe 1-2 sec.
SLiC wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:42 am
Definitely not normal.

I am on a pretty old i7 (3370K 3.5Ghz) with SSD on Win 10 and wavetable synth is almost instant, the other two pretty fast, certainly less than a second each with a pre-set.
mcbpete wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:54 am
Yeah about the same for me - Each takes a little under a second to load, the Wavetable (possibly) taking the longest of the three
Is this on a freshly reset computer and freshly launched Live?
After reboot as you asked.

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KVRAF
9979 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:46 am

SLiC wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:59 am
Wait for b5 to drop (its RC) and hope that cures it (it has a max update I think)?
No improvement with 11.0.5b5 :(

I've sent a bug report to support. They're very fast recently, so hopefully they'll have a clue what's happening.
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KVRAF
7929 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:25 am

antic604 wrote:
Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:46 am
SLiC wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:59 am
Wait for b5 to drop (its RC) and hope that cures it (it has a max update I think)?
No improvement with 11.0.5b5 :(

I've sent a bug report to support. They're very fast recently, so hopefully they'll have a clue what's happening.
Fingers crossed, very weird, never seen anyone else post this issue either.
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KVRAF
9979 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:26 am

SLiC wrote:
Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:25 am
Fingers crossed, very weird, never seen anyone else post this issue either.
Well, it might well be that pesky Cubase :(
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KVRAF
7929 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:00 am

antic604 wrote:
Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:26 am
SLiC wrote:
Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:25 am
Fingers crossed, very weird, never seen anyone else post this issue either.
Well, it might well be that pesky Cubase :(
Couple of long shots...

Options.txt or preferences files etc files (stuff that stays even if you delete and reinstall...) - manually delete?

Deselect all controllers in case its trying to map the device to somethings?
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KVRAF
9979 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:13 am

SLiC wrote:
Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:00 am
Couple of long shots...

Options.txt or preferences files etc files (stuff that stays even if you delete and reinstall...) - manually delete?

Deselect all controllers in case its trying to map the device to somethings?
Thanks, but:
- no, haven't been using options.txt since v10 (and it's definitely not there)
- it was already happening when I had no controllers set up (& still happens now with Push2)

:(
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KVRAF
1709 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA

Post Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:37 am

They were on the slow side for me, maybe 2-3 seconds, but nothing extraordinary. I'd guess Hybrid Reverb loading the list of impulses. W10, i7-6700/NVMe SSD.

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