Why you left REAPER?

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rod_zero
KVRAF
3075 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO

Post Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:58 pm

Reaper was my second DAW after cubase, and using it felt like a Chore. There is people who like the customizable workflow, and that's great for them. I personally don't have time to invest in getting it right.
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rod_zero
KVRAF
3075 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:59 pm

Also, the UI sucks.
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Kaya Orsan
KVRer
10 posts since 15 Oct, 2018

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:42 pm

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Forgotten
KVRAF
11472 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:50 pm

Ommmmmmmmmmmm

machinesworking
KVRAF
2331 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:30 pm

rod_zero wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:59 pm
Also, the UI sucks.
Yeah, it just does. I've been looking at MPE compatible DAWs for a while since the two I've used the longest are not, (DP and Live), and Reaper is fantastic, and flawed in terms of UX. It's a PITA to set up, it's not visually easy to work with, and none of the Themes help that much. God bless all the mild coders who hack out themes for Reaper, but none of them are that good at it either. It's a constant compromise to use Reaper in terms of user interface experience compared to other DAWs, and it's dammed near impossible for me to imagine this will ever change because the fanbase is rigidly convinced it's not that bad, or even better than the rest, because, reasons.... :scared:

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vurt
addled muppet weed
65214 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:40 pm

Forgotten wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:50 pm
Ommmmmmmmmmmm
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enroe
KVRian
1234 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:43 am

The "typical reaper newby question" goes like this:
Question: "I've installed Reaper. How can I record something?"
Answer: "Umm, wait: We could write a script for that!"
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chk071
KVRAF
24086 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:13 am

:)

The VLC developers are pretty similar to that. Question: "How do I do this and that in VLC?" Reply: "Well... VLC's source code is available, so... code that function yourself.". Mmh.. yeah... what if I can 't program though? Tough luck then, I guess.

Everyone is a scripter and a developer though. Sure sure.

To be fair, I don't see that too much in Reaper though. Reaper has a lot of functionality for beginners or more advanced users as well. The scripting is rather a bonus, for the chosen few who know how to do it, or can be arsed to learn how to do it. Fortunately, they don't make the same mistakes as those turds who think everyone is able to code.
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KVRian
1234 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:08 am

There is the Cessna-comparison: Imagine all DAWs being
like a Cessna: You do a few checks, sit in and with a few
transparent operations you can take off - and have a
fantastic flight.

In this comparison Reaper is like a F-16 Falcon: You cannot
just climb into the cockpit and take off. No, you have to learn
all the instruments and switchter first, you have to take
lessons until you can fly such a jet fighter.

Reaper is like a F-16: After learning Reaper you can do things
much faster, but in all other DAWs you do things without learning
so much.
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Vladislav_Gronk
KVRist
83 posts since 14 Sep, 2019

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:32 am

I have a love-hate relationship with REAPER. It's basically a build-your-own DAW which I kind of enjoy and when you put in the effort to tweak it it can be amazingly fast to work in. At the same time it's just so frustrating sometimes and the more you fall down that customizing rabbit hole, the more you start noticing flaws and the user-made scripts can only cover so much. The lack of proper area selection is a big one for me.

I don't know, if I wasn't so used to the Ableton/Bitwig style of working with device chains I'd probably use REAPER as my main.

johnwoo
KVRist
60 posts since 7 May, 2012

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:52 am

Still Reaper here , for record and everything else , love the fact that I can load X32 vst , vsti and DX plugins , but I would love if they change the media browser , make this more like studio one browser ... wishful thinking :pray:

QBICS
KVRer
8 posts since 25 Dec, 2019

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:32 pm

fese wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:50 am
The Grim wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:05 pm
One other thing you didn’t mention is the “REAPER ARMY”. You know, those missionary zealots who answer any question in any forum with “Have you tried reaper?” or “reaper can do that”, regardless of the relevance. Which is probably another similarity with the hardcore Linux evangelists. Feels like some sort of cult sometimes and makes me not want to use reaper ever...
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Jafo
KVRAF
1988 posts since 20 Dec, 2002 from The Benighted States of Trumpistan

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:42 pm

UI, as with every DAW save Tracktion. I just can't wrap my brain around why every track appears twice: horizontally at the top, and vertically at the bottom. Far better to use a rational DAW, one that doesn't cotton to this madness and waste of screen space.
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InLight-Tone
KVRist
129 posts since 10 Jan, 2014

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:02 pm

Because I ended up customizing it to no end, producing little to no music, and it still wasn't right. Rinse and repeat...
"and the Word was Sound..."
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Vladislav_Gronk
KVRist
83 posts since 14 Sep, 2019

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:42 pm

Jafo wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:42 pm
UI, as with every DAW save Tracktion. I just can't wrap my brain around why every track appears twice: horizontally at the top, and vertically at the bottom. Far better to use a rational DAW, one that doesn't cotton to this madness and waste of screen space.
What the...? Have you tried hiding the mixer perhaps? :scared:

This is what it looks like for me:

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