Why you left REAPER?

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Distorted Horizon
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3854 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats

Post Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:17 am

I never left 8)

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Faiky
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280 posts since 23 Jun, 2012

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:29 am

kae wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:32 pm
dtrq wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:52 pm
kae wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:06 pm
Pro Tools.. Most is visible/accessible (if you want) from the track without the need to locate the same channel vertically at the bottom or having to change track to see the "inspector". Why waste 1/3 of valuable vertical screen space?
And open the full mixer view when you want to.. mix.
Nothing prevents you from having this workflow in Reaper.
Is that by using the 3rd party script I read about in here or something? I remember doing a search for it once, since Reaper is so flexible, but couldn't find a solution for it then.
I work in this way. You can dock the mixer on the side, so only the selected track is displayed.
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That's why I actually never use the big mixer anymore.

Edit: And you can choose the elements you want, it's now easy with the Theme Adjuster:
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Edit:
Okay that would be problematicly:
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I think it isn't possible to show all plugins in the TCP at the moment. But you can choose wich. But I like the workflow with the docked left mixer
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antic604
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5110 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:41 am

Is there a good, consistent FLAT theme for v6?

I really like how they've cleaned up the GUI in this new version, but for example the volume knob or mute/solo buttons look like they're from another era...
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chk071
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24090 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:12 am

Why you left REAPER?
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Plugins and a DAW. On a operating system. Which runs on a computer.

empphryio
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189 posts since 14 Apr, 2019

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:52 am

kae wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:32 pm

Is that by using the 3rd party script I read about in here or something? I remember doing a search for it once, since Reaper is so flexible, but couldn't find a solution for it then.
No. You just click view and remove or add whatever you want on the screen.

I like that I can still use 32 bit. Lots of other reasons that matter far less.

perfumer
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663 posts since 4 Oct, 2018

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:15 am

Faiky wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:29 am
I think it isn't possible to show all plugins in the TCP at the moment. But you can choose wich. But I like the workflow with the docked left mixer
Try this:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=210987

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antic604
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5110 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:13 pm

Damn, I just went through that 15-piece video tutorial, d/l the demo and I gotta say it's amazing! :o

Sure it's weird at places but that coat of new paint in v6 really makes it very appealing... And I thought I'm through with buying DAWs... :D
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jonljacobi
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1460 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:35 pm

Awesome features. Incredibly stable. But give it a thorough courtship before you take it down the aisle.

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antic604
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5110 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:23 pm

jonljacobi wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:35 pm
Awesome features. Incredibly stable. But give it a thorough courtship before you take it down the aisle.
Indeed. Some simple stuff had me stumped, for example:
- automating any parameter of VST requires either to find it on a - often huge - list or at least going to the menu and adding a envelope for last touched parameter from there,
- adding an empty MIDI clip is weird, probably because a track can take any type of item - in most daws one just double-clicks and gets a clip
- adding dots to automation is cumbersome, requiring modifier; I've not figured out how to add curves to automation yet
- the MIDI editor - if I have 4 clips one after another - will only show me the contents of the 1st clip, but with playback it will move to "empty" space where the other clips are, but I can't see their content,

And so on & so on. I'm sure majority (or all) of the above is my own fault for not knowing the right shortcuts or settings :)

I gave it up for now, but I'm happy to know I can get it and use it quite without much fuss which wasn't that obvious to me just this morning ;)
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my music - https://soundcloud.com/antic604

Trancit
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2741 posts since 27 Jul, 2004

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:25 pm

antic604 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:23 pm
Indeed. Some simple stuff had me stumped, for example:
- automating any parameter of VST requires either to find it on a - often huge - list or at least going to the menu and adding a envelope for last touched parameter from there,
I made a shortcut (ALT+A) for "Show/Hide track envelope for last touched FX parameter"
so I just touch a knob in a VST... ALT+A and ready to go...
- adding an empty MIDI clip is weird, probably because a track can take any type of item - in most daws one just double-clicks and gets a clip
Again a shortcut works fine here: "Insert new midi item" which creates a new midi item on the selected track ... you define the length with the time selection... just an example though as there are many ways... i.e. in the mouse modifiers for "Track" you can put this "Insert new midi item" to the doubleclick ... even better with making a macro to select the track first you are doubleclicking on...
- adding dots to automation is cumbersome, requiring modifier; I've not figured out how to add curves to automation yet
for me it´s the ALT key ... if you hoover the mouse over the envelope line (not on a node) and hold ALT the cursor should turn from an up/down arrow to a left/right arrow...
Btw: It´s set in the mouse modifiers for "Envelope segment" and there for "left drag" and it´s called "Edit envelope segment curvature"
- the MIDI editor - if I have 4 clips one after another - will only show me the contents of the 1st clip, but with playback it will move to "empty" space where the other clips are, but I can't see their content,
No idea... I am not the PR expert 8)
And so on & so on. I'm sure majority (or all) of the above is my own fault for not knowing the right shortcuts or settings :)

I gave it up for now, but I'm happy to know I can get it and use it quite without much fuss which wasn't that obvious to me just this morning ;)
Reaper is for sure no DAW to learn in a few days... tbh the learning about Reaper never stops...
The best tutorial resource I know is the channel of Kenny Gioa: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq297H ... Q/featured

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antic604
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5110 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:47 pm

Trancit wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:25 pm
The best tutorial resource I know is the channel of Kenny Gioa: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq297H ... Q/featured
Yeah, his are the ones I've watched today and he completely changed my perception of Reaper. Despite his weird habit of pausing mid-phrase and propensity to modulate his voice artificially ;)

And thanks for the tips :tu: :clap:
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stamp
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805 posts since 10 Sep, 2014

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:58 pm

antic604 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:23 pm
I gave it up for now, but I'm happy to know I can get it and use it quite without much fuss which wasn't that obvious to me just this morning ;)
If you take your time to set it up you can streamline the workflow quite a bit, but it will take a lot of time to learn it. Good for multitrack recording, audio editing, mixing, mastering and orchestral stuff but if you try to do the stuff you make in Bitwig (sound design, racks, modulation) forget it.

mtelesha
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276 posts since 21 May, 2018

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:02 pm

I use a DAW like an Instrument. Bitwig and Waveform 10 are what I use. I feel like old audio systems are not what I need, but a DAW that I can treat like an Instrument.
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Waveform and Bitwig are my DAWs and UHe is my Bae. I maybe buy one synth a year. REMEMBER SELF just one synth a year!

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h2ogun99
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290 posts since 13 Mar, 2003 from San Diego

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:22 pm

mtelesha wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:02 pm
I use a DAW like an Instrument. Bitwig and Waveform 10 are what I use. I feel like old audio systems are not what I need, but a DAW that I can treat like an Instrument.
Is that why you left Reaper?

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antic604
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5110 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: Why you left REAPER?

Post Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:36 pm

stamp wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:58 pm
antic604 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:23 pm
I gave it up for now, but I'm happy to know I can get it and use it quite without much fuss which wasn't that obvious to me just this morning ;)
...but if you try to do the stuff you make in Bitwig (sound design, racks, modulation) forget it.
My thoughts exactly! I mean it can do anything, but the time I'd need to set up complex FX chains that I typically do in Bitwig would be 5x more and i don't even want to think what I'd have go through if I wanted to change the order, split types, etc. In this case it's pretty similar to Reason in that it's super flexible, but headache to edit when you change your mind.

The old saying of my grand, grand father rings true - "stick to the DAW that does best the things you do the most of, and pisses you the least for everything else" ;)
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