How is VST automation in Cubase nowadays?

[JerGoertz]

I think I remember it used to have accuracy issues, with accuracy decreasing with larger (slower) soundcard buffer size.

Anyone with experience of Cubase 9.5-10.5 have an opinion here?

[Passing Bye]

It's still there unfortunately, I still can't believe that to this day DAW's like Logic and Cubase have so screwed up automation.

Than there's more stuff, people can talk shit about Pro Tools and Reaper for days, but they nailed it and now can move on and develop further:
https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/music/ ... iffer.html

[Winstontaneous]

Maybe Cubase's makers should reach out to the creator of the VST spec to fix it.
Ridiculous, just like Logic is the least stable AU host...shoemaker's kids and all that.

[JerGoertz]

It's still there unfortunately, I still can't believe that to this day DAW's like Logic and Cubase have so screwed up automation.

Than there's more stuff, people can talk shit about Pro Tools and Reaper for days, but they nailed it and now can move on and develop further:
https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/music/ ... iffer.html

Well, that's unfortunate. Really excited Cubase finally got curved automation, and now sobered a bit to learn it still has that nonsense.

[JerGoertz]

Than there's more stuff, people can talk shit about Pro Tools and Reaper for days, but they nailed it and now can move on and develop further.

Reaper's automation is pretty solid, then? I remember hearing something like that in the past but was so put off by the UI that I never experiemented with Reaper that much.

[jancivil]

“Logic Pro is by far the worst, and audibly so!”

later:
“Logic aced it, mostly. I tried every combination of buffer sizes, process buffer ranges, real/offline…

BUT ONLY WITH SAMPLE ACCURATE AUTOMATION ON!”



I’ve seen enough.

[No_Use]

Maybe Cubase's makers should reach out to the creator of the VST spec to fix it.

So that would be Steinberg reaching out to Steinberg.
More seriously, the VST3 specs allow sample accurate automation.

[Passing Bye]

Well, that's unfortunate. Really excited Cubase finally got curved automation, and now sobered a bit to learn it still has that nonsense.

It's still there unfortunately, guess most people just don't change buffers that often when they have lot off automation going on, so it's kinda mostly non issue for Steinberg and their loyal user base.

Reaper's automation is pretty solid, then? I remember hearing something like that in the past but was so put off by the UI that I never experiemented with Reaper that much.

Yeah, I left you link where member from here is putting plenty of DAW's for few phases of testing and Reaper is always on top and spot on, but again, if you can't work with it, it doesn't mater that much.

[JerGoertz]

Well, that's unfortunate. Really excited Cubase finally got curved automation, and now sobered a bit to learn it still has that nonsense.

It's still there unfortunately, guess most people just don't change buffers that often when they have lot off automation going on, so it's kinda mostly non issue for Steinberg and their loyal user base.

Reaper's automation is pretty solid, then? I remember hearing something like that in the past but was so put off by the UI that I never experiemented with Reaper that much.

Yeah, I left you link where member from here is putting plenty of DAW's for few phases of testing and Reaper is always on top and spot on, but again, if you can't work with it, it doesn't mater that much.

Yeah, thanks for the link, that was helpful. I saw that FlStudio did well in some aspects, maybe I'll dig that out again (since I have a perpetual license and everything )

[Psuper]

For the most part, Cubase automation, specifically the lack of a simple 'midi learn', is crap. Aside from that, I'm pretty happy.

[dionenoid]

For the most part, Cubase automation, specifically the lack of a simple 'midi learn', is crap. Aside from that, I'm pretty happy.

Hit learn, move knob, done. How simple do you want it ?

[Psuper]

For the most part, Cubase automation, specifically the lack of a simple 'midi learn', is crap. Aside from that, I'm pretty happy.

Hit learn, move knob, done. How simple do you want it ?

Some VSTS within Cubase yes. However not the DAW itself (like any of the controls on the left, you have to manually build your controller hotkeys).

For instance, I want to assign midi learn to the EQ buttons for sweeps. In 10 you can't. Can you in 10.5?

[dionenoid]

For the most part, Cubase automation, specifically the lack of a simple 'midi learn', is crap. Aside from that, I'm pretty happy.

Hit learn, move knob, done. How simple do you want it ?

Some VSTS within Cubase yes. However not the DAW itself (like any of the controls on the left, you have to manually build your controller hotkeys).

For instance, I want to assign midi learn to the EQ buttons for sweeps. In 10 you can't. Can you in 10.5?

No problem in 10, or older versions. Just use Track Quick Controls. It's been around for ages.

[Psuper]

For the most part, Cubase automation, specifically the lack of a simple 'midi learn', is crap. Aside from that, I'm pretty happy.

Hit learn, move knob, done. How simple do you want it ?

Some VSTS within Cubase yes. However not the DAW itself (like any of the controls on the left, you have to manually build your controller hotkeys).

For instance, I want to assign midi learn to the EQ buttons for sweeps. In 10 you can't. Can you in 10.5?

No problem in 10, or older versions. Just use Track Quick Controls. It's been around for ages.

Yes quick controls suck, borderline useless.

[dionenoid]

For the most part, Cubase automation, specifically the lack of a simple 'midi learn', is crap. Aside from that, I'm pretty happy.

Hit learn, move knob, done. How simple do you want it ?

Some VSTS within Cubase yes. However not the DAW itself (like any of the controls on the left, you have to manually build your controller hotkeys).

For instance, I want to assign midi learn to the EQ buttons for sweeps. In 10 you can't. Can you in 10.5?

No problem in 10, or older versions. Just use Track Quick Controls. It's been around for ages.

Yes quick controls suck, borderline useless.

RTFM dude. But stop whining about things you clearly know nothing about.