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FYI my upgrade from 10 Suite is £143. Is there usually a second wave discount better than 20%?

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SHall1000 wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:44 am FYI my upgrade from 10 Suite is £143. Is there usually a second wave discount better than 20%?
it can go up to 40% and not to mention when you buy via resellers. for euro people very nice...

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So when is "11.Ob19"?! I want that beta! :hihi:

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If I remember right they had a 30% Sale in Summer & 25% in Winter since Live 10. And normally Thomann has good Upgrade - offers after the Release.
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WasteLand wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:45 amit can go up to 40% and not to mention when you buy via resellers. for euro people very nice...
I'd be really surprised if it was sold via re-sellers too. Was it the case for 10?

I mean after the release - sure. But not before it.
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antic604 wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:49 am So when is "11.Ob19"?! I want that beta! :hihi:


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they use centercode for it, i see only Live 10. will be added soon?

https://ableton.centercode.com/home.html

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antic604 wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:51 am
WasteLand wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:45 amit can go up to 40% and not to mention when you buy via resellers. for euro people very nice...
I'd be really surprised if it was sold via re-sellers too. Was it the case for 10?

I mean after the release - sure. But not before it.
i don't think this moment resellers will get this, after the release, and when there is a sale.

but €159 isn't bad for this update, for the same amount i bought bitwig :lol: (new, they granted me a special price, because, see the thread i once made..)
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My favourite new features are the note probability and scale filter for MIDI. Looks like a great update incorporating many long-time requested features.
Signatures are so early 2000s.

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All looks super awesome. Not going to lie, though...the lack of development in 10 (i only seriously started using Live at v9, so it's my only comparison) has curdled some of my enthusiasm. 11 makes 10 look like 11.1.

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WasteLand wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:53 ambut €159 isn't bad for this update...
Yes, it's a good price. And I'd prefer to already use it for 6 months rather than save EUR20-30...
WasteLand wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:53 am...for the same amount i bought bitwig :lol: (new, they granted me a special prive, because, see the thread i once made..)
Good deal :tu:

Which thread, BTW?
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voidhead23 wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:54 am11 makes 10 look like 11.1.
You gotta be kidding. 10 and 10.1 brought TONS of awesome stuff, even though a lot of it was "cosmetic" but very important for better and faster workflow. Not to mention VST3, Capture, MIDI chase, new devices, "integration" of M4L. It's easy to forget :)
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antic604 wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:56 am
WasteLand wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:53 ambut €159 isn't bad for this update...
Yes, it's a good price. And I'd prefer to already use it for 6 months rather than save EUR20-30...
WasteLand wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:53 am...for the same amount i bought bitwig :lol: (new, they granted me a special prive, because, see the thread i once made..)
Good deal :tu:

Which thread, BTW?
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=547829

i asked bitwig. had to show documents of course. could buy it via a reseller. worth a shot by several brands me guess.

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antic604 wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:58 am
voidhead23 wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:54 am11 makes 10 look like 11.1.
You gotta be kidding. 10 and 10.1 brought TONS of awesome stuff, even though a lot of it was "cosmetic" but very important for better and faster workflow. Not to mention VST3, Capture, MIDI chase, new devices, "integration" of M4L. It's easy to forget :)
i never had 9, so i can't judge it really, but 10 if could compare it with the features of 9, was a big step.

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i see that MPE has also release velocity (which by the way isn't MPE..... just midi 1.x spec, my novation main keyboard can do it..), so a full implementation, great for my 3 roli blocks (seabord + 2xlightpad M).

and at last poly pressure with the push 2 controller, which is also nice, or very nice. it makes push 2, almost a MPE controller. it will not have the expression possibilities of a roli, morph, joué, linnstrument etc.

but still poly pressure adds a lot (don't forget you can play now for example the CS 80 V3, as it's meant to be...).

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncG7uT1 ... =emb_title
https://www.musictech.net/news/ableton- ... lkthrough/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoFvxWOkEpw
00:00 Start
03:43 CPU Metering
05:03 Keys and Scales
06:19 Hybrid Reverb
10:17 Spectral Resonator
13:44 Spectral Time
15:57 MPE - Midi Polyphonic Expression
18:22 Improved Clip Detail View
19:12 Refined Clips (Transpose whole Song)
20:32 Redux
22:27 New Phaser-Flanger
24:44 New Chorus-Vibrato
26:33 Note Probability and Velocity Chance
31:28 Follow Actions
31:42 Rack Improvements and Macro Controls
35:31 Interface Electric and Corpus
35:47 Stage: Tempo Following
36:35 New Instruments and Sounds
37:18 My Thoughts on this update
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

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