Reason 12 announced

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KVRist
250 posts since 16 Oct, 2016

Post Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:28 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:52 pm
I had done everything I wanted in that thread ... I changed it up to suite my end goals.
If your end goal was to embarrass yourself in front of those who watched that train-wreck of a thread, then well done.

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Rad Grandad
34404 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine

Post Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:52 pm

can someone tell me what the thread topic is plz
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KVRAF
2352 posts since 30 Dec, 2014

Post Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:08 pm

Reason 13 :-D
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Rad Grandad
34404 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine

Post Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:36 pm

well cheekiness aside this tangent has kinda gone on long enough and tbh it's kind of a fantastical one at that. I dont really see it going anywhere besides in more circles, it really has little to do with Reason so how about we give it a break...plz and ty :)
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KVRAF
8062 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:40 pm

It will be released in 4 weeks anyway, may as well just wait! If there is any 'early access' for R+ users it wont be very early!
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KVRAF
2067 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:03 am

SLiC wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:40 pm
It will be released in 4 weeks anyway, may as well just wait! If there is any 'early access' for R+ users it wont be very early!
indeed, i did the 333 thing only to see the new features... didn't install the extra RE's/instruments, or soundpacks (well i don't need them, for others they can be quite usefull).

so 3 euro's down the drain. because i don't want to run another beta... beta testing already enough..

o well... no sampler, hi-res takes ages (coders? the have good coders in sweden, but are they in hiding??). even i could code it faster, and that says a lot.... with 20 years no coding...
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KVRAF

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10316 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:47 am

WasteLand wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:03 am
o well... no sampler, hi-res takes ages (coders? the have good coders in sweden, but are they in hiding??). even i could code it faster, and that says a lot.... with 20 years no coding...
Are you changing the zoom level constantly? Based on the info from RS the first time you use certain zoom level other than 100% Reason will gradually re-draw all used devices & store the "new" versions in cache, so next time you use them at that zoom level they load relevent assets instantly, so there's no "pop in" that you see the 1st time.

It's not ideal perhaps, but much smarter than what Arturia pulls off.
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KVRAF
8062 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:06 am

I have no issues at all with Hi Res speed now (d139 Win 10), it works perfectly for me.

The 3$ deal lets you download and keep 100's of soundpacks- worth it juts for that- If you don't want o play with Algortym and Friktron etc for 3 months I can only assume you have them already?
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KVRian
804 posts since 4 Feb, 2021

Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:51 am

Where were we? Oh, yes, Reason 12 announced. And....?
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KVRAF

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10316 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:55 am

TribeOfHǫfuð wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:51 am
Where were we? Oh, yes, Reason 12 announced. And....?
...it's to be released on 1st of September, you can participate in 12 Beta or get R+ and (hopefully) access new features a bit earlier.

Compared to S1 topic, we're very much on topic here :D
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KVRAF
1949 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from your mom

Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:44 am

WasteLand wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:03 am
o well... no sampler, hi-res takes ages (coders? they have good coders in sweden, but are they in hiding??). even i could code it faster, and that says a lot.... with 20 years no coding...
Most of Sweden is on vacation during the summer months. RS devs/coders are likely in the process of returning from something the entire country has traditionally participated in for ages.

In its current state, once hi-res assets are loaded at your set zoom level, they are cached and then load instantly when switching. We all know this will improve in an update. And improved search works as advertised - it really is instantaneous compared to everyone on Reason 11 and earlier. So, yeah - R+ subscribers are indeed getting early access. I’d wager the incoming sampler will be released before Reason 12 formally launches as well.
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KVRAF
2067 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:49 am

antic604 wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:47 am
WasteLand wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:03 am
o well... no sampler, hi-res takes ages (coders? the have good coders in sweden, but are they in hiding??). even i could code it faster, and that says a lot.... with 20 years no coding...
Are you changing the zoom level constantly? Based on the info from RS the first time you use certain zoom level other than 100% Reason will gradually re-draw all used devices & store the "new" versions in cache, so next time you use them at that zoom level they load relevent assets instantly, so there's no "pop in" that you see the 1st time.

It's not ideal perhaps, but much smarter than what Arturia pulls off.
no, one zoom level. but it is that slow... yes when a all instruments/effects are 'drawn' it is fast.

i know it is one time problem. it is cached, i already knew it. but 2-4 minutes for hi-res? o well, in the end it is cached and it works, the spectra additive synth is now more usable...

it is indeed smarter than arturia, i agree. we already agreed on that...
EnochLight wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:44 am
WasteLand wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:03 am
o well... no sampler, hi-res takes ages (coders? they have good coders in sweden, but are they in hiding??). even i could code it faster, and that says a lot.... with 20 years no coding...
Most of Sweden is on vacation during the summer months. RS devs/coders are likely in the process of returning from something the entire country has traditionally participated in for ages.

In its current state, once hi-res assets are loaded at your set zoom level, they are cached and then load instantly when switching. We all know this will improve in an update. And improved search works as advertised - it really is instantaneous compared to everyone on Reason 11 and earlier. So, yeah - R+ subscribers are indeed getting early access. I’d wager the incoming sampler will be released before Reason 12 formally launches as well.
of course it will improve in an update, but still astonished how much time it takes, they had time to prepair, years... o well...
SLiC wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:06 am
I have no issues at all with Hi Res speed now (d139 Win 10), it works perfectly for me.

The 3$ deal lets you download and keep 100's of soundpacks- worth it juts for that- If you don't want o play with Algortym and Friktron etc for 3 months I can only assume you have them already?
when cached it works. the soundpacks, as i said, they can't interest me, that is personal, because -for example- reason i use to make... sounds... and loops... and more of course..

i don't own Algortym and Friktion. Friktion i demoed, sounds great, but i have other solution that give me better results, also personal (and no MPE). and Algortym, an overload of FM synths and synths with extensive FM capabilities... didn't demo it. perhaps it will add something... well perhaps i will try it. and buy it.. but as i said, enough other solutions for extreme FM...
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KVRAF

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Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:57 am

EnochLight wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:42 am
antic604 wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:47 am
It's not ideal perhaps, but much smarter than what Arturia pulls off.
Hahah - holy crap, man! And I thought Reason's inability to allow users where to install their RE's was bad. Does Arturia at least allow you to do that?
Yes, it does. And if you change it after installation it will even move the files accordingly.

The issue is I'd never expect 14GB and 700k files from synths & FX.
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KVRAF
1949 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from your mom

Post Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:05 am

antic604 wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:57 am
Yes, it does. And if you change it after installation it will even move the files accordingly.

The issue is I'd never expect 14GB and 700k files from synths & FX.
** looks at his Rack Extension folder **

It's not 700K files, but it's certainly not a small folder. Just wish I could install it where I want instead of relying on a directory alias: :(


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Banned
2 posts since 31 May, 2021

Post Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:56 pm

Reason has become a joke. I fully agree and support INTRANCER.

Now, Reason Studeos are only really concerned with pushing the VST plugin mode of reason.

They can't even get HD working....the types of issues MANY people are experiencing...buttons and knobs off kilter. Text appearing in the wrong font.....or not at all.

I predict this is where it ends for them... the product is officially dead. As in 'dead product' :wink:
at this point. This is going to be such a trainwreck and I don't see them recovering from it. I predict massive programming team exodus at the same time.... its probably already happened or happening which explains all the issues.
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