Studio One users... You staying or going?
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Why do so many people here think that, just because Fender bought Presonus, they would turn everything with a Presonus tag on it into a band/guitar orientated product? That doesn't even make sense. Why buy a company for that?
- KVRAF
- 10256 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
I see no reason that they can’t (or wouldn’t) appeal to both camps.
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- KVRAF
- 10256 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
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- KVRAF
- 2751 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Central NY
Because FENDER is not run by musicians and has not been for years.cryophonik wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:48 pm I see no reason that they can’t (or wouldn’t) appeal to both camps.
They are owned by a private equity firm run by bean counters. Sometimes,
these types of firms, like Mitt Romney's former company Bain Capitol, buy
companies to PURPOSLY destroy them to line their own pockets. Sometimes
they simply do not understand the needs of the user base of the company
they just bought. Either way....the end user is screwed.
When CBS bought Fender back in the day it nearly ruined the brand. Likewise
when Norlin bought Gibson the result was the same. Likewise Gibson ruined
countless companies and technologies they bought. Roland bought Cakewalk.
And Roland actually made software and music hardware. How'd that workout for Sonar users? Bandlab may have it on life support but it will never be what it once was.
The verdict is still out on Yamaha's scooping up Steinberg and Line 6 AND Ampeg. And Korg's grabbing Marshall & Vox.
Sometimes these things work out. But just as often they do not.
Personally, I used to work for Presonus & am a long time Studio One
user. I'm not ready to jump ship just yet.....but I'm keeping a very close
watch on how this buyout progresses.
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- KVRist
- 194 posts since 12 Mar, 2021
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- KVRist
- 194 posts since 12 Mar, 2021
To make money. This market is underserved in recent years. And the trends are pointing to more guitar infused popular music.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 273 posts since 7 Nov, 2009 from DC
As a former Presonus employee what do you see happening? Also, I was thinking Matthias from Presonus Software created Studio One. Is their a chance he leaves you think to create his own DAW, if Fender doesn't workout? He left Steinberg I think, and created one. Just a thought.CapnLockheed wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:05 pmBecause FENDER is not run by musicians and has not been for years.cryophonik wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:48 pm I see no reason that they can’t (or wouldn’t) appeal to both camps.
They are owned by a private equity firm run by bean counters. Sometimes,
these types of firms, like Mitt Romney's former company Bain Capitol, buy
companies to PURPOSLY destroy them to line their own pockets. Sometimes
they simply do not understand the needs of the user base of the company
they just bought. Either way....the end user is screwed.
When CBS bought Fender back in the day it nearly ruined the brand. Likewise
when Norlin bought Gibson the result was the same. Likewise Gibson ruined
countless companies and technologies they bought. Roland bought Cakewalk.
And Roland actually made software and music hardware. How'd that workout for Sonar users? Bandlab may have it on life support but it will never be what it once was.
The verdict is still out on Yamaha's scooping up Steinberg and Line 6 AND Ampeg. And Korg's grabbing Marshall & Vox.
Sometimes these things work out. But just as often they do not.
Personally, I used to work for Presonus & am a long time Studio One
user. I'm not ready to jump ship just yet.....but I'm keeping a very close
watch on how this buyout progresses.
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- KVRian
- 1253 posts since 17 Oct, 2018
Seems like some of your information is outdated. Fender did almost die when CBS bought them. However, Fender of today regardless of whether they are run by musicians or not is actually the biggest guitar manufacturer in the world and one of the most popular brands. Their guitars over the last decade or so have been great. Well built, sound good and they still hold their value. Even their Squire line is good nowadays.CapnLockheed wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:05 pmBecause FENDER is not run by musicians and has not been for years.cryophonik wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:48 pm I see no reason that they can’t (or wouldn’t) appeal to both camps.
They are owned by a private equity firm run by bean counters. Sometimes,
these types of firms, like Mitt Romney's former company Bain Capitol, buy
companies to PURPOSLY destroy them to line their own pockets. Sometimes
they simply do not understand the needs of the user base of the company
they just bought. Either way....the end user is screwed.
When CBS bought Fender back in the day it nearly ruined the brand. Likewise
when Norlin bought Gibson the result was the same. Likewise Gibson ruined
countless companies and technologies they bought. Roland bought Cakewalk.
And Roland actually made software and music hardware. How'd that workout for Sonar users? Bandlab may have it on life support but it will never be what it once was.
The verdict is still out on Yamaha's scooping up Steinberg and Line 6 AND Ampeg. And Korg's grabbing Marshall & Vox.
Sometimes these things work out. But just as often they do not.
Personally, I used to work for Presonus & am a long time Studio One
user. I'm not ready to jump ship just yet.....but I'm keeping a very close
watch on how this buyout progresses.
Fender is a music company and they do care about the products they put out and they have been putting out pretty good products. Leo Fender himself wasn't musician, he was more of an engineer, yet here we are decades later still buying and playing his iconic guitars.
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- KVRAF
- 10256 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
...and some of us are playing his iconic G&L basses
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- Banned
- 2525 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
87 G&L Skyhawk here. That was the last year Leo Fender worked in the factory
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- KVRAF
- 2415 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
Definitely staying.
And here is something odd that you seem to never hear on KVR, but I actually like all of Studio Ones onboard instruments.
I think Mai Tai is great and use it a lot. SampleOne is a very decent sampler once you use it a bit and get used to it, and by "sampler", I mean I sample stuff and play it. Presence has great rompler sounds, more than good enough for my modest needs. Even Mojito is a decent one osc synth. I could easily install just Studio One and use if it for everything.
I bought Cubase Pro before Studio One, and at first Studio One gathered dust, but it has slowly grown on me. And of late its Cubase that is left languishing. Great DAW.
And here is something odd that you seem to never hear on KVR, but I actually like all of Studio Ones onboard instruments.
I think Mai Tai is great and use it a lot. SampleOne is a very decent sampler once you use it a bit and get used to it, and by "sampler", I mean I sample stuff and play it. Presence has great rompler sounds, more than good enough for my modest needs. Even Mojito is a decent one osc synth. I could easily install just Studio One and use if it for everything.
I bought Cubase Pro before Studio One, and at first Studio One gathered dust, but it has slowly grown on me. And of late its Cubase that is left languishing. Great DAW.
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- KVRAF
- 2179 posts since 11 Mar, 2003
I just jumped ship from Cubase to Studio One and loving it, so I hope I don't need to jump again. I follow Fender guitars quite a bit and they seem to have been getting better and better. Lots of models at all price points and all well made. Same can't be said for Gibson.
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- KVRAF
- 4420 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Earth
I agree.dellboy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:35 pm Definitely staying.
And here is something odd that you seem to never hear on KVR, but I actually like all of Studio Ones onboard instruments.
I think Mai Tai is great and use it a lot. SampleOne is a very decent sampler once you use it a bit and get used to it, and by "sampler", I mean I sample stuff and play it. Presence has great rompler sounds, more than good enough for my modest needs. Even Mojito is a decent one osc synth. I could easily install just Studio One and use if it for everything.
I bought Cubase Pro before Studio One, and at first Studio One gathered dust, but it has slowly grown on me. And of late its Cubase that is left languishing. Great DAW.
I love Impact and Mai Tai
Sampler One is also a cool and simple sampler.
I don't use Presence at all since i have all the Rompler sounds i need elsewhere
Mai Tai is super and very versatile synth that people overlook because it is bundled in a Daw and i love that it has different Character settings and Quality setting that do what they say and change it into a Complete different sounding synth.
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- KVRist
- 342 posts since 23 Sep, 2008
Life support?CapnLockheed wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:05 pmWhen CBS bought Fender back in the day it nearly ruined the brand. Likewisecryophonik wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:48 pm I see no reason that they can’t (or wouldn’t) appeal to both camps.
when Norlin bought Gibson the result was the same. Likewise Gibson ruined
countless companies and technologies they bought. Roland bought Cakewalk.
And Roland actually made software and music hardware. How'd that workout for Sonar users? Bandlab may have it on life support but it will never be what it once was.
Cakewalk is stronger now than it's ever been. The development and bug fixing is miles ahead of any point in the companies history. Their developers are dedicated, and have a budget to get things done. Currently using it for a new album, and I haven't even had one error or crash. I'm comparing the current program to all the time I spent with Cakewalk products from 1995 to 2016.
Presonus, on the other hand, can't even kill the 666 Noise Blast bug that's been going on for years.
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