Tablet 2 MIDI - Bugs thread

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ohm
KVRAF
1513 posts since 2 Jul, 2004

Post Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:29 pm

Improv wrote:
Improv wrote:
ohm wrote:good news - problem was not as bad as I thought. Should be fixed now, tested in the Live, Bidule, FL, Cubase demos.

Tip of the day:
You can now purchase Tablet 2 MIDI in the LiveLab.dk shop.
Lots of changes recently - get it while it's hot (and cheap at a friendly introduction price).
Read about the new stuff here.

Does your Wacom tablet support now include the ability to use the Wacom Grafire4 mouse (as well as the pen) instead of needing a seperate mouse (something which I am NOT interested in doing for one program only). I had previously mentioned to you that a hot key 'breakout' might be useful.

Cheers
Bump!
ok, ok your bump has been heard :-) You can use the spacebar to toggle tablet on / off, and that will affect both pen and mouse. So far I have found no way of freeing the mouse without freeing the pen. I won't rule it out completely though, I'll ask wacom how to do it - they seem to be good in the support department :-)
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JustJ
KVRist
270 posts since 15 Jun, 2004 from Munic

Post Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:35 pm

I know this is a bit out of this, but:
what about using a Pocket PC for This?
It has a big touchscreen with a good display behind, It's nice and small, could operate using Bluetooth, IrDa or Wlan.
Jonamb aka. JustJ
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ohm
KVRAF
1513 posts since 2 Jul, 2004

Post Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:41 pm

JustJ wrote:I know this is a bit out of this, but:
what about using a Pocket PC for This?
It has a big touchscreen with a good display behind, It's nice and small, could operate using Bluetooth, IrDa or Wlan.
yeah, I thought of this too. My pda is an old palm100, so no nice big screen and definately no Wlan. But when I get a new one, I'll cook something up, count on that :-)
Actually, I find it hard to beleive this is not already possible. But then again, I felt the same way about using a touchpad as a midi device.
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Improv
KVRAF
1950 posts since 21 Mar, 2003 from Labrador

Post Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:55 pm

ohm wrote: ok, ok your bump has been heard :-)
That's what bumps are for. :-)
You can use the spacebar to toggle tablet on / off, and that will affect both pen and mouse.

So far I have found no way of freeing the mouse without freeing the pen. I won't rule it out completely though, I'll ask wacom how to do it - they seem to be good in the support department :-)
I looked at the brief set of docs but didn't see any mention of the spacebar toggle. That seems to do the job, don't know why anything more is needed. Is it? :?

ohm
KVRAF
1513 posts since 2 Jul, 2004

Post Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:31 pm

That seems to do the job, don't know why anything more is needed. Is it?
well, if that works for you it's fine, I just had an idea it might be possible to do this automatically when the mouse entered / left the tablet surface.
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Improv
KVRAF
1950 posts since 21 Mar, 2003 from Labrador

Post Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:59 pm

ohm wrote:
That seems to do the job, don't know why anything more is needed. Is it?
well, if that works for you it's fine, I just had an idea it might be possible to do this automatically when the mouse entered / left the tablet surface.
Ah, ok. Sure, that's useful. Please do.

BTW-are there any templates for T2M to illustrate some possible uses? I thought I saw some on your site a while ago, but can't see any now? Hmmm...

ohm
KVRAF
1513 posts since 2 Jul, 2004

Post Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:07 am

there will be. I just received Proems template for fruity loops - he's doing one for Ableton Live too :-) The templates include default project files for those hosts. I'm planning on a generic Energy XT template too.
There'll be a user library section on the website too so we can all share our setups.
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Improv
KVRAF
1950 posts since 21 Mar, 2003 from Labrador

Post Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:13 am

ohm wrote:there will be. I just received Proems template for fruity loops - he's doing one for Ableton Live too :-) The templates include default project files for those hosts. I'm planning on a generic Energy XT template too.
There'll be a user library section on the website too so we can all share our setups.
exT would be great. I also own T2, Podium, and SX2.2. The library is a good idea so people thinking of buying can get a better idea when road testing.

acousmod
KVRist
421 posts since 27 Jan, 2004 from France

Post Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:48 am

Hi,

The 0.92 version shows a very slow refresh rate, both for sending messages and updating graphics, when two objects are on top of each other.

There was no problem for me with old beta versions.

As an example : http://mediasonie.free.fr/temp/zones1.t2m

ohm
KVRAF
1513 posts since 2 Jul, 2004

Post Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:13 am

acousmod wrote:Hi,

The 0.92 version shows a very slow refresh rate, both for sending messages and updating graphics, when two objects are on top of each other.

There was no problem for me with old beta versions.

As an example : http://mediasonie.free.fr/temp/zones1.t2m
do you remember what beta version you used last? I you still have the exe could you please send it to me? One thing I added was transparency on the controllers - on some systems this will be slow. I'll add a switch to disable that feature.

I also raised the refresh rate, this could give high cpu usage and this could lead to very slow refresh rates if the CPU is nearing 100%. Could that be the problem?
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acousmod
KVRist
421 posts since 27 Jan, 2004 from France

Post Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:16 am

do you remember what beta version you used last? I you still have the exe could you please send it to me?
Sorry, I have replaced the beta with the new version :(
I suppose that it was 0.7x because I was away during two weeks...
So I have no proove of the difference, but I remember well to have try to play with pads and freehand objects that overlap and there was no color trails like now.

The color trails are drawn during movements and only erase when the movement stop or the pen goes out of the overlapping area. The MIDI values are sent at this time and no one are sent during the movement.
http://mediasonie.free.fr/temp/tabdraw.jpg

Can you reproduce this ?
Or perhaps is it due to my config ?
I also raised the refresh rate, this could give high cpu usage and this could lead to very slow refresh rates if the CPU is nearing 100%. Could that be the problem?
I don't know... But my P4 HT 3,2 GHz goes nearly to 100 % when I play on two Pads at once, which is really too much !!!

ohm
KVRAF
1513 posts since 2 Jul, 2004

Post Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:53 am

Has to be the transparency then. I'll add a switch to disable it. It's very different how graphics cards handle that stuff.
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lalo
KVRian
1435 posts since 14 Oct, 2002

Post Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:55 am

Hi!

i report tablety layout printing issues...
..i went throu the printer calibration process...

..but the layout print is like 1 cm larger and like 5 mm thinner of the actual screen layout...

my tablet is a wacom graphire A6..my printer is epson stylus c66

thanx

lalo

emx
KVRist
39 posts since 6 Aug, 2002 from Budapest, Hungary

Post Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:58 pm

ableton crashes when i try o load any files :(

ohm
KVRAF
1513 posts since 2 Jul, 2004

Post Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:35 pm

update available:

* GUI performance improvements - at least twice as fast
* Fixed a bug in printer calibration
* Ability to disable controller transparency (to cut CPU / fix performance issues with some graphics cards)

emx: i coudln't reproduce the bug you mention - please try again with the latest version.
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