Best mixing headphones, budget max ~1600 $
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 12 posts since 27 Nov, 2020
Do you guys have any suggestions?
I was looking at the Focal Clear Professional but I cant find a lot of info on people actually using them for mixing.
I tried the Audeze LCD-X at my local store and was not impressed, everything sounded super unnatural compared to my Beyerdynamic 1990 Pros.
I was looking at the Focal Clear Professional but I cant find a lot of info on people actually using them for mixing.
I tried the Audeze LCD-X at my local store and was not impressed, everything sounded super unnatural compared to my Beyerdynamic 1990 Pros.
- KVRist
- 424 posts since 21 Aug, 2018 from Sweden
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- KVRist
- 360 posts since 1 Nov, 2012 from England
Yeah just get the Slate VSX headphones and save yourself a bunch of money.
Slate VSX have only come to the market very recently, they are available at lots of sites.
- KVRist
- 424 posts since 21 Aug, 2018 from Sweden
As a european i tend to look at Thomann and they don´t have them. They had something called VSX founders edition, but not anymore.
- KVRAF
- 4849 posts since 5 May, 2005 from Stockholm, Sweden
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- KVRer
- 2 posts since 17 Dec, 2020
Sennheiser HD 650
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- KVRAF
- 2625 posts since 2 Jun, 2016
1) Slate VSX.
2) If shops aren't currently selling Slate VSX near you, stick with your Beyerdynamic 1990 Pros until Slate VSX become available (which they will at some point in the next few weeks).
In many ways, you answered yourself in your opening post as you seem to like your Beyerdynamic 1990 Pros better than some more expensive but competing headphones.
2) If shops aren't currently selling Slate VSX near you, stick with your Beyerdynamic 1990 Pros until Slate VSX become available (which they will at some point in the next few weeks).
In many ways, you answered yourself in your opening post as you seem to like your Beyerdynamic 1990 Pros better than some more expensive but competing headphones.
- KVRist
- 424 posts since 21 Aug, 2018 from Sweden
Jag förstår tyvärr inte vad du menar
- KVRAF
- 1560 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland
Since you already have DT1990, i can recommend getting Realphones software to go with it. The maker of that software recommends DT1990, and they seem to have made it with those headphones as reference.
https://www.dsoniq.com/
I got my 1990's recently and i'm very happy (used to work with 990's and Realphones). The amount of detail is just crazy, and i've never heard headphones that translate so well in the low end.
The software is also on sale atm, and will be updated soon with more mixing environments and such.
https://www.dsoniq.com/
I got my 1990's recently and i'm very happy (used to work with 990's and Realphones). The amount of detail is just crazy, and i've never heard headphones that translate so well in the low end.
The software is also on sale atm, and will be updated soon with more mixing environments and such.
More BPM please
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
I have quite a few reference headphones gathered over the years... latest additions being the Focal Clear Pro and Audeze LCD-X (2020 rev? The one with the different outside fabric)
I thought I would order the two and keep only one but they both do very different things well.
Overall, probably the Focal Clear is better I’d say... but even saying this now, I’m not so sure
Clear:
+overall dynamics
+kick/lows punch
+uniform detail across all freqs
+overall stereo image “shape”
+overall tonal/freq response (especially if you won’t eq them)
LCD-X
+speed/transient response
+details
+a different ‘planar’ ‘de-gluing’ of the sound and some sort of liquid smoothness but also ‘sharp’ when needed, not sure how to describe, they sound bad when when the music/sound is bad!
Both of these help in QC-ing in they’re own ways, they are complementary if you ask me. Get the Clear for ‘overall’ and get the LCD-X for fast response and details
I thought I would order the two and keep only one but they both do very different things well.
Overall, probably the Focal Clear is better I’d say... but even saying this now, I’m not so sure
Clear:
+overall dynamics
+kick/lows punch
+uniform detail across all freqs
+overall stereo image “shape”
+overall tonal/freq response (especially if you won’t eq them)
LCD-X
+speed/transient response
+details
+a different ‘planar’ ‘de-gluing’ of the sound and some sort of liquid smoothness but also ‘sharp’ when needed, not sure how to describe, they sound bad when when the music/sound is bad!
Both of these help in QC-ing in they’re own ways, they are complementary if you ask me. Get the Clear for ‘overall’ and get the LCD-X for fast response and details
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
^negative comments of these:
Clear:
-Stereo img is OK but not wide (The Imaging shape is great tho)
-not the most detail but that’s a good thing if you want to focus on something else, an overly detailed headphone can be distracting. It ‘sugar-coats’ just a tiny tiny bit.
-some mid and mid-high peaks can be a tiny bit distracting but can be totally eq-ed out
-be careful not to stress them out, I’ve not experience the ‘driver clipping’ problem at all (didn’t even try) but by design it seems like it has that.
LCD-X
-not too dynamic overall, it has a pleasant sense of punch and dynamics, it’s OK, but it also feels a bit ‘packed/congested’ ... not really ‘compressed’ sounding but limited (not the sound of a limiter) in a way
-Stereo img seems a bit odd (but gets corrected to some extent if you eq the headphones)
-you either learn to use them as they are or they can really benefit from eq correction.
All headphones really benefit from very precise ‘manual’ eq correction I think! Freq response and masking, stereo image width and shape will get corrected
Clear:
-Stereo img is OK but not wide (The Imaging shape is great tho)
-not the most detail but that’s a good thing if you want to focus on something else, an overly detailed headphone can be distracting. It ‘sugar-coats’ just a tiny tiny bit.
-some mid and mid-high peaks can be a tiny bit distracting but can be totally eq-ed out
-be careful not to stress them out, I’ve not experience the ‘driver clipping’ problem at all (didn’t even try) but by design it seems like it has that.
LCD-X
-not too dynamic overall, it has a pleasant sense of punch and dynamics, it’s OK, but it also feels a bit ‘packed/congested’ ... not really ‘compressed’ sounding but limited (not the sound of a limiter) in a way
-Stereo img seems a bit odd (but gets corrected to some extent if you eq the headphones)
-you either learn to use them as they are or they can really benefit from eq correction.
All headphones really benefit from very precise ‘manual’ eq correction I think! Freq response and masking, stereo image width and shape will get corrected
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
forgot to mention: I also have the DT-1990 and although they can be great with eq (still not @ the level of the Clear and LCD-X if you ask me) , I absolutely won't recommend them without eq correction... they seem too bright and some high-mid peaks/dips combination really mask the freq response.
here's the eq correction I had for my particular unit, A-pads: https://app.box.com/s/k8y0ob80su2dffywz449jle4sqs586ij
here's the eq correction I had for my particular unit, A-pads: https://app.box.com/s/k8y0ob80su2dffywz449jle4sqs586ij