ReFine support topic

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lkjb
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110 posts since 13 Oct, 2012

Post Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:19 pm

Feel free to post any questions, feedback, bug reports or other things that come to your mind about ReFine here.

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Tp3
KVRAF
2118 posts since 8 Feb, 2007

Re: ReFine support topic

Post Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:46 am

can you elaborate on the operation of the plug ?

There are meter surrounding each knob but how does one set the values ?
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gLOW-x
KVRer
25 posts since 29 Nov, 2011

Re: ReFine support topic

Post Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:32 pm

By ears ? :tu:
It is based on psycho-acoustic, so there will never be any rule or metering.

Adjust to taste.

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jackoo
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583 posts since 3 Jul, 2006

Re: ReFine support topic

Post Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:14 am

Doesn't load in EnergyXT 1.41

fwsuperhero
KVRist
294 posts since 26 Jul, 2012 from Prague, czech republic

Re: ReFine support topic

Post Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:00 am

On Mac Os X that vst looks like folder. I dont know how to change it. So no daw will load it...

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jackoo
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583 posts since 3 Jul, 2006

Re: ReFine support topic

Post Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:35 am

15% cpu load in idle. Intel E7500 @2.93Ghz

lkjb
KVRist
110 posts since 13 Oct, 2012

Re: ReFine support topic

Post Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:20 am

Thanks for your feedback. The meters give an estimate about the release (warm), level (space) and transient (punch) amounts, which are also used for the color in the history display.

I only have EnergyXT 2.6 at hand, where it seemed to work OK. Won't it load at all or can't you see the user interface?

I also noticed the vst/vst3 folders instead of bundles, but I was able to test the plugin in Reaper and a vst3 test host (I'm currently still using a 10.7 machine where I don't have other VST3 hosts installed). What OS X version and DAW are you using?

The high cpu load seems to be a denormalization problem. I'll have a look right away.

lkjb
KVRist
110 posts since 13 Oct, 2012

Re: ReFine support topic

Post Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:47 am

The high cpu usage wasn't a denormalization problem but a bug that got triggered when silence was put in after non-silence. An update with a fix is now available.

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jackoo
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583 posts since 3 Jul, 2006

Re: ReFine support topic

Post Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:51 am

lkjb wrote:I only have EnergyXT 2.6 at hand, where it seemed to work OK. Won't it load at all or can't you see the user interface?
EnergyXT 1.41 says: "This is not a VST plug-in: ReFine.dll".
Cubase loads it fine.

WinXP SP3 32bit

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jackoo
KVRian
583 posts since 3 Jul, 2006

Re: ReFine support topic

Post Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:23 am

lkjb wrote:The high cpu usage wasn't a denormalization problem but a bug that got triggered when silence was put in after non-silence. An update with a fix is now available.
Well now when I play some sound the usage drops to <5%. When I stop playing, after 5 seconds of silence goes back to 15-20%.

eidenk
KVRAF
2250 posts since 29 Nov, 2004

Re: ReFine support topic

Post Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:17 am

Please add a "main" entry point, it doesn't load in some hosts because of that.

lkjb
KVRist
110 posts since 13 Oct, 2012

Re: ReFine support topic

Post Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:48 am

There was an additional denormalisation issue which should be fixed now.

I'll also have a look about the main entry point. Is there any free host that won't load a plugin without it that I can use for testing?

eidenk
KVRAF
2250 posts since 29 Nov, 2004

Re: ReFine support topic

Post Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:54 am

lkjb wrote:I'll also have a look about the main entry point. Is there any free host that won't load a plugin without it that I can use for testing?
Cantabile Lite 1.2: http://classic-web.archive.org/web/2008 ... eSetup.exe

fwsuperhero
KVRist
294 posts since 26 Jul, 2012 from Prague, czech republic

Re: ReFine support topic

Post Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:42 pm

I use mac os x 10.6.8
and Renoise 3 and Tracktion 5.
Btw i love your EQ, so it is surprise for me that you've released this kind of plugin. I am very curious how it sounds. Is it something like soundgoodizer by image-line?

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RunBeerRun
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7893 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA

Re: ReFine support topic

Post Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:01 pm

It's a subtle one, I've been running full songs through it, the middle knob makes the snares stand out, the last knob affects transients. I have to turn the knobs up all the way to definitely tell they're on.
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