Phuturetone GR-8

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KVRist
46 posts since 28 Aug, 2011 from Belgrade, Serbia

Post Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:50 pm

OzoneJunkie wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:27 pm
I see BONES and linus_369 mentioned both of the things I came here to request: mousewheel for scrolling presets, and resizable GUI (for me, a 25% bump higher would be perfect). And of course, CPU optimization is always welcome.

GR-8 sounds awesome, and I love the user interface. I'm not really looking for any new synths these days, but I saw a video of someone playing around with it, and thought "wow, I like the interface and the sound..." and so figured I would try it out. Glad I did.

Cheers!

EDIT: Oh, what about MPE? Is that possible with Synth Edit? If so, is MPE something you're considering?
Hi OzoneJunkie,

Thank you for the comments! Some CPU improvements are on the way. The mouse wheel support is outside my reach. The 125% scale is probably manageable, but I'm currently too busy with the daily job to be able to do it.

I think that MPE is still not available in SE, but I may be wrong.

Cheers,
Sasha

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KVRian
1191 posts since 16 Jan, 2004

Post Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:27 pm

Thanks for the reply, Sasha. CPU improvements on the way sounds great, that's probably the most important to me anyway. Thanks for a great synth, and all of the work you put in.

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GRRRRRRR!
11898 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:49 pm

Honestly, I'd rather see some velocity modulation options than anything else. Now that I've been diving into GR-8 more deeply, this has became a real issue for me that limits what I can do with it. The issue with the depth of the env mod on cutoff is another thing I think should be a priority.

While MPE may not be achievable, the best part of an MPE controller - the "5D touch", as Roli call it, would definitely be achievable. All you need is a pitch-bend range of +/-48 semitones and to assign a MIDI cc or two. You can see how Rich has implemented it in Obsession, it's quite simple and means we can all use our MPE controllers with it, just without the polyphonic aspect of it, which is of limited use anyway.
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KVRist
46 posts since 28 Aug, 2011 from Belgrade, Serbia

Post Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:37 pm

A new version is out:
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/gr-8-b ... /downloads

v1.0.2 - 2021-07-17:
  • Fixed wrong pitch caused by switching from Mono to Poly mode.
  • Various fixes to prevent excessive use of CPU.
  • Removed diffusion from Delay to reduce CPU usage.
  • Removed oversampling to reduce CPU usage.
  • Doubled Filter Env Depth range.
  • Assigned MIDI CCs to Init preset.
  • Enabled custom install folder on PC.
  • Added manual install for presets on Mac.

Thank you all for reporting the bugs and sharing your opinion and ideas. I appreciate your help! :tu:

Sorry for the slower update – it was a hard one. I've tried several options for oversampling and decided not to use it at all. I thought that partial oversampling will require less CPU, but it turned out that it required more CPU than the whole plugin oversampled. I've used 2x oversampling for oscillators and filters but figured out there's no need since they sound similar without oversampling. For distortion, I've used 4x oversampling. I assume only the presets with heavy distortion could sound cheaper than before. So, If you want a cleaner sound, increase the sampling rate on your DAW, it should sound excellent on 88.2kHz and above.

@Bones, I'm not allowed to add new options to the plugin until the voting is ended. After that, I will add the Velocity controls for Filter Cutoff and Amp Level. thank you for the review and for promoting GR-8.

Cheers,
Sasha

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GRRRRRRR!
11898 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:12 pm

CPU usage is way, way down! Great work! The new env mod depth range is also a welcome and useful change. Thanks so much for being so responsive to our requests.
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KVRian
1422 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from France

Post Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:51 pm

CPU usage is a LOT better.

Gets my 5 points easily (voted right now). Not only is this synth really great-sounding but also I must admit this is the only plugin from the entries I'll use for sure.
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GRRRRRRR!
11898 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:13 pm

Yeah, me too. Reduktion seems to have a few fans but it doesn't do anything for me. Same for WhispAir, which lacks any real bite from my limited playing around with it. But I really like the way GR-8 sounds and I enjoy using it, too. A little velocity modulation and this could easily become one of my go-to synths.
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KVRian
1422 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from France

Post Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:45 pm

I just don't understand this hype around Whispair. To me it sounds more than basic, far from pro quality, I thought people wouldn't care. But they like it. Good that it's working for some of us, to each one his own taste.

As far as I'm concerned, Gr-8 is the only entry I'd use in productions.
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KVRian
542 posts since 11 Mar, 2010

Post Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:52 pm

Yeah, it gets my vote as well. It sounds fantastic. And you guys are right, the FX section is top notch.
Regarding Reduckion, I liked Deducktion better.. Besides, that GUI is terrible. Developers should pay more attention to their GUIs.

KVRist
236 posts since 27 Aug, 2015 from Paris, France

Post Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:40 pm

Phuturetone wrote:
Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:37 pm
A new version is out:
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/gr-8-b ... /downloads

v1.0.2 - 2021-07-17:
  • Fixed wrong pitch caused by switching from Mono to Poly mode.
  • Various fixes to prevent excessive use of CPU.
  • Removed diffusion from Delay to reduce CPU usage.
  • Removed oversampling to reduce CPU usage.
  • Doubled Filter Env Depth range.
  • Assigned MIDI CCs to Init preset.
  • Enabled custom install folder on PC.
  • Added manual install for presets on Mac.

Thank you all for reporting the bugs and sharing your opinion and ideas. I appreciate your help! :tu:

Sorry for the slower update – it was a hard one. I've tried several options for oversampling and decided not to use it at all. I thought that partial oversampling will require less CPU, but it turned out that it required more CPU than the whole plugin oversampled. I've used 2x oversampling for oscillators and filters but figured out there's no need since they sound similar without oversampling. For distortion, I've used 4x oversampling. I assume only the presets with heavy distortion could sound cheaper than before. So, If you want a cleaner sound, increase the sampling rate on your DAW, it should sound excellent on 88.2kHz and above.

@Bones, I'm not allowed to add new options to the plugin until the voting is ended. After that, I will add the Velocity controls for Filter Cutoff and Amp Level. thank you for the review and for promoting GR-8.

Cheers,
Sasha
Thanks for the update! Eagerly waiting for velocity options now :tu:
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KVRian
1191 posts since 16 Jan, 2004

Post Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:51 am

Awesome, thanks for the update! Will the Oversampling return, perhaps as an option?

KVRist
109 posts since 4 Feb, 2015

Post Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:55 am

Thanks for the update, I can confirm what BONES and DJEmac say regarding CPU usage.

As for a resizeable GUI, I think a 125% and a 150% option would be great.

Anyway, congratulations on this synth, Phuturetone! :tu:

KVRist
46 posts since 18 Feb, 2015 from Argentina

Post Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:58 am

Hi Sasha, just tried the new version and the reduced cpu usage is a welcome improvement, thanks!

About the GUI size, I just wanted to report that here on my 4k display GR-8 looks sharp and the size is perfect (I believe it's using the "@2x" .png files). I'm using FL Studio, maybe other DAWs do not scale it properly?

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KVRAF
5833 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:47 am

I would not mind to find also a Mac VST version.

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KVRian
1422 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from France

Post Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:22 pm

I've made a quick song to see if I could actually use GR-8 only in a production. The answer is yes.

Here is the short demo song I made quickly (drums and sound FX are external, the only synth you hear is GR-8) :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rm9hjO ... sp=sharing

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